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Is it really as bad as you all say?

I’m going to make this short and sweet.

1- mgt will LIE to you at the interview about every single topic you address just to get you in the door.
2- the Gallup poll showing us at the bottom 2% of all companies as reviewed by their employers is a sign.
3- run in the other direction, do not walk. RUN

Wait a minute, I wasn't notified that we had improved to the 2nd percentile. Does this mean we improved by 50% as media relations will report?
And don't kid yourself, cca's have some benefits but their hours are worse. If all you want is a part-time gig to last until your husband is out of college, this allows more schedule flexibility for watching your kids at night. That being said, schedule flexibility is definitely in the eye of the beholder.

Just relax and take the time to breathe. It's not a fit for everyone but, those who can self manage and focus do fine.
 
I think most peeps take a job, hoping it will work out fine and be a good fit...

Unfortunately, the RCA job has proven over time that more peeps don't fit, than do... at least that's what I've seen in the couple of decades that I've worked for the PO... more quit the job than those that stay long enuf to make Regular... and most quit pretty early on...

The OP in this thread has already said that if they get told they need to provide a vehicle, they're probably done... and how many others went for the ride along, came back and said thanks, but no thanks, not for me... it happens... quite a bit really...

Anybody remember MilkyMint, Wolfie, TrashCanMan, etc., etc... just sayin'... :whistle:

I miss Wolfie... if she were still here, she'd be giving this new person an earful... :oops:
 
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I'd ask your Postmaster how long they have been delivering Amazon, and if there was an increase in Amazon about a year ago when the whole Trump/Amazon feud heated up. If the answer is that indeed there was "some increase" in Amazon in the last year or so, then the workload is likely going to be unreasonably heavy, and hard on everyone, especially new hires. In many offices the length of the route was calculated to run 8-9 hours years back. Then, USPS took on Amazon delivery without adjusting those routes. So, in effect, carriers are delivering Amazon for free, on their own time.

I'd say I'm in a minority of RCAs that don't get overworked/exploited. I'm in a small office with an RCA for each route. I primarily sub for one route, and occasionally the second rural route.. Not bad, but no typical. If the PM that runs the office is truthfully telling you this is a "very part time" job, and the town really is a small farming area, there is hope.

Typically offices have many more routes, and not enough subs (RCAs) to fill every route. This is when trouble starts. It leads to RCAs being bounced around all over the place, which can be very hard, in particular if you are expected to learn to case all the magazines/catalogs/ads (flats) for that route.

As mentioned, it is going to be overwhelming when you began, for certain. If you're trainer is good, patient, and helps more than the minimum you can make it. You'll need to be a worker with a lot of resolve, able to stay calm, and think while stressed. Maybe have a bit of a "I'm going to beat this" attitude.

So, the crucial info (IMO) is to get a gauge for how many routes there are, and how many RCAs there are to cover those routes. If they've got an RCA for every route, your dream of a "very part time" job may be possible. If you take the job, come back for tips on how to leave the tricks of the trade. It will help.
 
Btw, Fantasyland that California is, amazon now delivers most stuff under three pounds there. So there is hope.
 
I defer to Lou Paloma's comments about what he told his daughter when she asked him about working for the PO... he told her she'd be better off joining the military...

Lou is a well respected former rural carrier who got jerked around by the USPS, as many (most) of us have at some point...

If I couldn't recommend it to someone in my own family, not sure I could recommend it to anyone else in good conscience either...

But, I wish any and all who want to give it a shot all the best of luck... imo, you're gonna need it... :whistle:
 
If I was to start over again, there is no way I would do it. I was lucky when I was hired, only took about a year and a half to make regular. If I had to do 10+ yrs as the RCA's now with the pay they have now. Nope, never. To many jobs out there now that pay more then what they start you out at. I have been here for over 15 yrs already. Whole different animal back then.
 
I think current hires are projecting upon new hires with their long term goals. Most new hires have no interest in staying for the Long haul. Jobs tasks and benefits in most industries have seen declines. Doesn't mean it can't be a good stop gap fill.
Not being a Pollyanna, just recognizing ( after hundreds of district orientations) so many of the new hires have different wants than a full time job these days. A shocking amount of new hires are retired already or just looking for a couple of hundred $ extra a month. Traditional jobs have changed, but so have the wants of the workforce.
 
Lets not forget that 1000 pound hammer that could drop at any minute on all RCA's..

That Step 4 Grievance that the NRLCA lost sometime ago when the Post office insisted they have the right to FORCE RCA'S to work in other offices, not attached to theirs, up to 50 miles away.

This could make the RCA Position darn near 24/7, without benefits of course.
 
I sometimes wonder how RCAs really make much $$$ money with the cost of vehicles and maintenance and so forth... there's one sub in my office, started off with a LHD car, then sort of tore it up and/or wore it out... next got an older RHD Jeep that gave out after not too long... now they got a newer RHD Jeep... and all of this in a little over 3 years... and this is a couple of days a week person, not an everyday worker...

By the time you add up the gas, insurance, cost of vehicles, maintenance, etc., etc... how much are you really making??? :unsure:
 
Go work for Amazon, drive a Mercedes Benz while delivering, good pay and probably benefits, a bright future.
Remember I told you so.
 
Bezos may even give them some stock options... Amazon stock at that... that might be worth something $$$... :love:

If someone were to ask who has the brightest future, Amazon or the USPS.... well geezy, I wonder what the right answer would be??? :unsure:
 
hunchback -- "Think of the rural craft as Cinderella, except no fairy godmother, no prince charming, and no happy ending. "

-- But some rural carriers do have "pumpkins" -- even if they are orange and black plastic.
 
hunchback -- "Think of the rural craft as Cinderella, except no fairy godmother, no prince charming, and no happy ending. "

-- But some rural carriers do have "pumpkins" -- even if they are orange and black plastic.

Sort of off topic, but why stop now??? :rolleyes:

Speaking of the "pumpkins"... they recently replaced ours with some LARGE blue buggies with a weird bottom that's like springy and goes up and down with the weight in the buggy... anybody else get these things??? And, if so, what do you think of them??? :unsure:
 
Hello. I'm set to start Orientation this Tuesday as an RCA in California. I found this forum through countless hours of researching this job online to see if it will be a good fit for me. I have to say, I'm really having trouble remaining hopeful after reading so much negative content on this site and so many others also. Let me tell you a little about me...

I am a female in my mid 30's. I have a Husband of almost 1 year. We have a daughter who is 1 and a half and I have a 14 year old son from a previous relationship. My husband is a full time student and up until this job opportunity, I was unemployed for about 2 years taking care of my daughter. My husband will be staying at home with our kids on days that I am working for USPS as his school is about 90% online. He occasionally has to go on campus for things like final exams, etc.

Now, I have been reading every possible thread on this forum that I thought might pertain to my new job as RCA. I have found so much useful information that I am sure will help me tremendously once I start training. I've read through the "New RCA WITH questions" post and nearly every other topic posted by someone "New", and quite frankly, I am pretty much losing all hope for this job working out. I see comments about trying to have a family while doing this job and they are worrisome. As mentioned, I have a family and a very young daughter who is very attached to me still. I'm not sure I want to be away from her more than 9 hours a day.

When I was hired, I was told this was a very part time job. I was told the office where I will be working had just retired a few careers and replaced them with young guys who aren't going anywhere any time soon. (Sorry if this isn't proper terminology) It's located in a pretty small farming town with a few RCA'S already working there. The guy who hired me seemed pretty nice and he seemed to answer my questions honestly. I would be happy working 1-2 days a week and the occasional full time week if needed. I don't mind being called in for days they need my help so long as it works for my husbands school schedule. My issue is with the posts that say they are an RCA working 10+ hours a day, with no days off, never seeing their family, and treated like crap by the management. I mean, if I start this job and find it to really be as bad as you all say, I won't have any issues looking elsewhere, but if its really like that, why do you all stay? Seriously, are the benefits really worth all the struggles it sounds like you all face every day? I'm asking in all seriousness. I guess I'm just confused as to why anyone would willingly stay in a job that is technically not a "career" and continually be treated with such disrespect. I feel for you all and hope to God that my experience will be different but you guys and gals make it sound like hope is a lost cause at the USPS.

Ok JFT, here is my 2 cents for what its worth. I am one of those RCA's (5 years in) who has already completed one career and began another. I have always wanted to "drive" for a living. So after my retirement, I joined the USPS. Here is where my take may be a little different, I was in my previous career, the last 5 years inundated with new college graduates headed to my chosen field with their bright smiling hopefulness, encouraging, up beat morale, selfless attitudes, and unjaded view of the world I had been in for 25 years. The last few years, I began to feel as though, through the influx of technology, computers, interactive this, new wave that, and through the "no longer hands on " touch that had made me good at my career, that maybe, just maybe it was a natural evolution, out with the old, and in with the new.
Now, with 5 years in at the USPS, here is my take. I love this site, love that there is REAL information, real raw experienced based wisdom, logic, commonality, ranting, facts, appreciation for each other, ugliness, wisdom, hope from some, love for the craft, PRIDE in what we do(I feel that daily), partnership with each other, and my gosh the incredible work ethic to accomplish the job of RCA!!! However, I, now as a new RCA have to take a break from this site from time to time, because I do have, a bright smiling hopefulness, encouraging up beat moral , selfless attitude, and unjaded view of my new world!!! I get it I really do, the job of Mail Carrier Career or RCA has changed, I GET it. I have lived it in another career. BUT I want to keep my new, positive outlook so I use this site for information, to try to head off any mistakes I can born from experience and to connect with very update info, but I have met great people in different offices, lot of good, good people, met many fine people on my route, been appreciated , and thanked for doing a good job, been greeted at Walmart as a respected person, been told by my boss we did good, been frustrated, exhausted, confused, hopeless, lost, broken down on the side of the road, wet, cold, called in onto a route because someone broke down, wrecked, had a family member die, ran out of gas, had a child sick at school, all good reasons to leave the route, but we as a team have never failed to accomplish our given task. So, JFT, jump out there and give it a shot, its rewards can be very good, and if not , its not for everyone, but give it a long, long try at least 3 or 4 months, because it is not for the faint at heart. Best of luck to you and your family, my best advice, experience it and form your own opinion, then you can never wonder what if?
 
DB.Cooper -- "Speaking of the "pumpkins"... they recently replaced ours with some LARGE blue buggies with a weird bottom that's like springy and goes up and down with the weight in the buggy... anybody else get these things???"

-- Certainly sound like an improvement over the parcel buggies from long ago times. that had quarter inch round-metal frames which were covered with canvass and had a wooden bottom. Numerous bungie cords were attached to the top of the metal frame and to the wooden bottom, thus allowing the bottom to rise as parcels were removed.

"what do you think of them??"

-- As long as the metal frame did not break at a corner and stick out ( real safety hazard ) and the cords didn't stretch out too far, it was okay.

-- Getting them fixed was another matter as they were being phased out. When the rope used to hold the canvass to the metal frame broke we'd use the plastic strips from bundled magazines or Advo to tie the canvass to the frame. When the bungie cords lost their elasticity ( too loose ), carriers just put inverted postal tubs in the bottom so they would not have to reach so far down.

-- You know, the usual: adapt, improvise, overcome.
 
Ours are brand-damned new... but they sound like what you described as parcel buggies... so far, I'm not sure if I like them better than the "pumpkins" or not... they have more room... but the weird springy things tend to lean the load awkwardly if one side ends up heavier than the other side... I might give the inverted tubs a try and see how that works... :whistle:
 
Ok JFT, here is my 2 cents for what its worth....my best advice, experience it and form your own opinion, then you can never wonder what if?

Once somebody has went as far as getting hired, which takes *some* level of effort, and investment of time, without any pay... then wth... might as well at least sit thru the training and other "easy $$$ money"... then do the other training (more mostly easy $$$ money)... go until at least when they throw you out on your own... and see how it goes... maybe you'll like it, maybe not... if not, quit and then at least you got paid something for your time and efforts... take a pragmatic approach... a job is mostly about making some $$$ money... so do that, and then weigh all of the stuff along with it... decide if it fits your situation... more new peeps quit the RCA gig than stay with it... so that says *something* about the gig... just go in with your eyes wide open... that's my advice... :whistle:
 
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