area im in is growing quickly. Pm is so incompetent, she has had a pad for a cbu poured 3 times, and its still not right. maintenance refuses to mount the cbu, as it apparently is either not ada compliant, or big enough for the boxes they need to mount. Didnt bother me too much, since it wouldnt put me over the next hour anyway. However, another carrier is severely overburdened. but he is 3 years or so from retirement, wants his high three. So, he being the almighty office favorite, his route is not being cut. These two things together would give me an extra hour, maybe two if things went just right. Pm has also been running packages for said favorite carrier. The rca for that carrier wont file a grievance, im not even sure he is a union member.
is there anything i can do? route changes
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Deer Smearer
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In another thread you said you run an aux route. That means you are able to file for the PM running parcels.
johnwayne -- " The rca for that carrier wont file a grievance, im not even sure he is a union member."
-- A steward has to represent everyone. Makes no difference if a union member or a non-member.
-- Tell the RCA that if he / she files a grievance for the PM running parcels if the RCA was setting home, the RCA could get paid for the work done by the PM. That might be enough to encourage the RCA to file.
" another carrier is severely overburdened. but he is 3 years or so from retirement, wants his high three. So, he being the almighty office favorite, his route is not being cut. "
-- If the "favorite" carrier is consistently over weekly eval by 3 or more hours, manglement should be considering "corrective" action. PO-603, Section 151.2. Manglement can say they have considered corrective action, but decided not to ( probably because they are getting several hours of "free" work from the office pet. )
-- Best to ensure your route is up to snuff before making expansion plans involving other routes. If manglement wants your input, they'll ask for it.
-- A steward has to represent everyone. Makes no difference if a union member or a non-member.
-- Tell the RCA that if he / she files a grievance for the PM running parcels if the RCA was setting home, the RCA could get paid for the work done by the PM. That might be enough to encourage the RCA to file.
" another carrier is severely overburdened. but he is 3 years or so from retirement, wants his high three. So, he being the almighty office favorite, his route is not being cut. "
-- If the "favorite" carrier is consistently over weekly eval by 3 or more hours, manglement should be considering "corrective" action. PO-603, Section 151.2. Manglement can say they have considered corrective action, but decided not to ( probably because they are getting several hours of "free" work from the office pet. )
-- Best to ensure your route is up to snuff before making expansion plans involving other routes. If manglement wants your input, they'll ask for it.
Its just the incompetence that floors me. how can you pour a concrete pad THREE times, and still not have it right? Customers are complaining left and right when they come in to pick up the mail that should be delivered to their box. I was just asking if there was anything i could do to hurry the process a bit, but doesnt appear so.
Windindaface
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I've been able to avoid CBU's installed when development happens on my route by letting the contractors install a curb side box as the units become occupied while building others. Last development on route was 30 individual units with individual mail boxes.
Well who is telling or soliciting developers to put up cbu? if this is a crime? Your the one who serves theses boxes. Hand them a note with your opinion if you can't tell them. Get the mailboxes in first and let Pm worry about cbu later. Can not a customer put up their own mailbox anymore?
Avoid cbu at all cost!
Avoid cbu at all cost!
gotstamps
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Not in a neighborhood setting. The PO wants CBUs wherever possible. The builders typically contact the PO & it goes from there. I have yet to see any of the carriers in my office have any input when it comes to neighborhoods. I’ve only had say when a curbside box was the ONLY possible type of mailbox.
Windindaface
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What defines a neighborhood setting?
I do not solicit the builders, they do it on their own. There are 2 cul de sacs graded, utilities installed, 3 homes started and sold with curbside boxes already planted off a road I travel. Each one will have 8 homes when completed.
I do not solicit the builders, they do it on their own. There are 2 cul de sacs graded, utilities installed, 3 homes started and sold with curbside boxes already planted off a road I travel. Each one will have 8 homes when completed.
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gotstamps
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One of my neighborhoods will be 120 homes when completed. The other one will have approx. 1500 homes when finally done (4 routes in here now).
I like your proactive approach. If its questioned later, it was simply a chit-chat one day....I had one occasion when a new home was built on the route; the house is about a quarter mile off the road, and a bumpy drive.
The owner flagged me down one day while he was contemplating where to place his box, then asked if there were any tips. I quickly told him that I had the biggest box available at my place and loved it, as most reasonably sized boxes would fit. Sure enough, they put big one up, and now get lots of boxes.
It takes a village.
Windindaface
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I'm still confused as to what qualifies as a neighborhood rating. Is there anything in writing as to X homes per square mile? Hundreds of homes built in a cluster is not happening in my area.
The reason I ask is because my parents live in a newer (completed mid 2000's) development cluster of 700 homes based on flip-flop blueprints. Finish one home turn blueprint over and you have the next home. All have curbside and served by a city carrier.
The reason I ask is because my parents live in a newer (completed mid 2000's) development cluster of 700 homes based on flip-flop blueprints. Finish one home turn blueprint over and you have the next home. All have curbside and served by a city carrier.
LostinDakota
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Some districts are very adamant about NO new curbside boxes being installed. If curbside are installed we are informed we can not serve them and they will not be placed in the edit book as curbside addresses. The carriers have no say, the local management has no say. The district says it is a CBU or rent a PO box to get your mail. By word of mouth, I know some developments have tried to go congressional, but it didn't do any good. CBUs definitely do not save delivery time when every package is to the door in these neighborhoods and backtracking is involved because the CBU is not close to the actual address of the too large package. I hate CBUs.
yeah. i dont get this. part of a route was transferred to my aux route last year. during the transition, the pm convinced some of those people to go to a cbu. She also convinced them to pay something like 120 each to put up the cbu. Why would people pay to be in a cbu? I had no idea who these people were at the time, or i may have explained the situation in a little more detail.
If you happen to live in or near a larger city many people now worry about the security of their mail. It is not a hard sell to convince them the mail is safer in a locked box with a parcel locker that will probably handle most of their parcels. The manager does not mention the part about the carrier receiving only half as much pay for the cbu as we receive for a regular box.
johnwayne -- "Why would people pay to be in a cbu? "
-- As "12345" noted, cbu's offer a bit more security than the ordinary mail box.
-- If it would make you feel any better, you could leave a picture of a broken into cbu for those customers.
-- And besides getting less pay, a cbu creates additional work ( usually non-paid ) when one has an accountable, etc and the residence is far from the cbu and no one is home. At least one gets out in the fresh air a bit longer, though in the winter time, not always appreciated.
-- As "12345" noted, cbu's offer a bit more security than the ordinary mail box.
-- If it would make you feel any better, you could leave a picture of a broken into cbu for those customers.
-- And besides getting less pay, a cbu creates additional work ( usually non-paid ) when one has an accountable, etc and the residence is far from the cbu and no one is home. At least one gets out in the fresh air a bit longer, though in the winter time, not always appreciated.
