Métris van

[Dumbassclerksyndrome]

I have searched threads and resources for this information and cannot locate.
what is the criteria for a carrier to be able to refuse metris van? A new vehicle had to have been purchased in a timeframe and a 3 yr commitment signed. What is the purchase timeframe?

 

[gotstamps]

I have searched threads and resources for this information and cannot locate.
what is the criteria for a carrier to be able to refuse metris van? A new vehicle had to have been purchased in a timeframe and a 3 yr commitment signed. What is the purchase timeframe?

When or before a Carrier is told of a Gov’t Vehicle being assigned to the route, the Carrier would have to notify mgmt IN WRITING that they intend to purchase a RHD or convert to RHD & that they will it will be completed within 60 Calendar Days. You have to sign a 3-yr waiver & fulfill that 3 yrs or mgmt can request the incentive be returned in full or partial.

MOU #8
I’m not sure as to if a Carrier can refuse a Govt vehicle since this MOU states that mgmt has 10 days to let the carrier know if they intend to place a Govt vehicle on the route. This reads to me as if a Carrier cannot say no so I’d have to research further.

 

[gotstamps]

Article 9.2.J.2 states that mgmt may provide a vehicle to a route at its option so we cannot say no.

 

[Dumbassclerksyndrome]

Thanks guys!!!

 

[neciat]

If and or when you do get the van, Govt. vehicle, make sure that a 30 minute base hour change is added to the evaluation. It's 5 minutes daily for inspection, fueling, writing up repairs, etc. Also, when they make this change on your 4241A, you won't be getting a letter of demand later on for all the EMA they paid you and now want back.

 

[gotstamps]

If and or when you do get the van, Govt. vehicle, make sure that a 30 minute base hour change is added to the evaluation. It's 5 minutes daily for inspection, fueling, writing up repairs, etc. Also, when they make this change on your 4241A, you won't be getting a letter of demand later on for all the EMA they paid you and now want back.

And the DPS credit from POV to Govt will more than offset that added change. Expect possibly 1 to 3 hours loss.

 

[neciat]

gotstamps and all.........................while there is a difference in standards , Govt. vehicle vs. P.O.V. , the route doesn't just "go down" because it was assigned a vehicle. The route must be counted with the Govt. vehicle and the vehicle must be assigned to the route for a specific amount of time ( two weeks I believe ) in order for that to occur. Yet, the 30 minutes for the Govt. is a base hour change and is effective immediately.

 

[TheDude]

gotstamps and all.........................while there is a difference in standards , Govt. vehicle vs. P.O.V. , the route doesn't just "go down" because it was assigned a vehicle. The route must be counted in order for that to occur. Yet, the 30 minutes for the Govt. is a base hour change.

Is it a flat 30 minutes or does it take into account the fueling calculation?

 

[Twingrlie]

Is it a flat 30 minutes or does it take into account the fueling calculation?

Flat 30 minutes which includes the safety checks and refueling.

 

[TheDude]

Flat 30 minutes which includes the safety checks and refueling.

Is that until a count? I was told 4.5 minutes per fueling. Fueling based off once per 100 miles.

 

[FrozenToes]

Is it a flat 30 minutes or does it take into account the fueling calculation?

Minimum 30 minutes. The refueling credit can make it higher.

 

[Rt2mailman]

Any carrier can try and fight receiving a USPS vehicle If you can prove your POV to be safer.
In hill country where snow is normal a well kept 4x4 POV can be said to be much safer with studded tires (many VMF stations refuse to use studded tires) than a slick tired rear wheeled drive Metris. If you don't get to keep your POV, the USPS assumes almost all responsibility for unsafe performance that could lead to an accident, with proper documentation.

 

[btdtret]

The Dude -- "[ Getting / having a government provided vehicle ] Is it a flat 30 minutes or does it take into account the fueling calculation?"

-- Manglement usually just says 30 minutes for having a postal-provided vehicle.

-- PO-603 Section 535.23.f. In part:

- Each week 24 minutes is provided for completing PS Form 4570, Vehicle Time Record, daily; a vehicle safety check ( as outlined on Notice 76, Expanded Vehicle Safety Check,) daily; and PS Form 4565, Vehicle Repair Tag, as appropriate. ( so that would be 4 minutes a day ... moving on..)

- For each fueling of the vehicle 4.5 minutes is provided. The number of fuelings is determined by multiplying the daily route miles ( DRM ) by 6 days and dividing the result by 100 miles per fueling. ( be sure to get that extra 4.5 minutes for EVERY time you have to refuel. as more than likely manglement won't mention it! Back in the day, manglement wanted to keep LLV gas tanks at least half full all the time -- so even with short routes, multiple refuelings each week. Same for those l-o-n-g rural routes. )

- In no instance is a rural route on which an employer-provided vehicle increased in weekly evaluation by LESS THEN 30 minutes.

-- There is also a note regarding if one has to leave the line of travel to fuel.

-- Someone recently posted a Time Standard Chart. USPS vehicle - weekly = 30.0 minutes.

-- IF manglement should balk at additional payment for multiple fueling during the week, remind them about Step 4 ( E-71 ). In part:

- There may be instances where a local policy requires rural carriers to refuel more frequently than provided in the refueling allowance. In these instances, the parties further agree additional compensation may be warranted. ( there is that nasty "may" once again! )