Mail Survey (Mini Mail Count): So Why Do You Think They're Tracking If We Take DPS to the Street or Not?

[ATCBigE]

We still have an rca that does rhat..she flat out refuses to take heavy boxes too
She literally told management that she couldn't lift them or load into the truck so she left them all for the other rca who had to deliver them after her assigned route
Management let's her get away with it

Yep and that's the stuff that irks me. I guess from their perspective as management, they don't want to lose a sub, but when sub isn't doing job or unable to fulfill the role (lifting things is part of the job description), then they should be let go. I would be irked if the other sub personally and be looking out of that office.

 

[Old Fart]

That's very fair. I wouldn't have an issue with that if that was my office. It would be different if the so carrier was intentionally dragging feet to get the help. That's when I get mad.

In my old office, this carrier got a little less mail than me and started 45 minutes before I did, and yet I was beating him out of the office. He dragged feet or would talk morning then beg for help and they would give it. I just got tired of it. I shouldn't have to help carrier dragging his feet to intentionally get help.

Our teams would put peer pressure on any lagggard. They work hard and respect each other that way. We've had great PM leadership, makes a huge difference.

 

[hockey94]

I refuse to sort mail on the street.period. A safer function is already in place, & the post office knows this.
Sorting mail on the street distracts the carrier from securing and maintaining a safe working perimeter around their vehicles. Period.
This distraction does not currently exist bc the function is performed in the safety of the office. Period.
Sorting mail on the street increases fuel costs, exposure to safety hazards & wear n tear on an aging vehicle fleet( not to mention povs)...this data already exists when comparing city routes before dps and after being forced to take to the street...just compare rhe two.

I am curious do you have hand/finger/wrist problems from years of casing DPS ??

 

[KDM]

We still have an rca that does rhat..she flat out refuses to take heavy boxes too
She literally told management that she couldn't lift them or load into the truck so she left them all for the other rca who had to deliver them after her assigned route
Management let's her get away with it

Poor management

 

[Worve]

We still have an rca that does rhat..she flat out refuses to take heavy boxes too
She literally told management that she couldn't lift them or load into the truck so she left them all for the other rca who had to deliver them after her assigned route
Management let's her get away with it

Have 2 regs like that here . somedays It bothers me other days whatever it’s green card time.

 

[Flimflammed(Quasar)]

They can't consistently clear us by leave time anyway.

 

[stillfirstclass]

wish i could remember who posted this, so sorry... "the reason city carriers don't object to taking dps to the street? because they know it takes more time, more time is more money!"

 

[WestCoastRural]

Broken record.
The Study was done with approval and input from USPS, not just our union. They really only know city carrier methodology, and everything in this new system smacks of it nearly every event. One core principle is any time in the office is WASTED and the more it's eliminated the more they save. This is fantasy, of course but doesn't matter. We will be pressed into hourly harassment and observation while being theoretically salaried. Push all DPS to the street. (This is stupidity in our offices, we have several coverages a day and reasonably high DPS numbers) Core principle two is they don't trust ANY of us as far as they can throw us, so POLICE WORK and monitoring and threats are still the best way, in their view, to accomplish anything. Our union doesn't object too much, as their livelihood is made with filing minor grievances about this hour or that. All this police work by management will generate grievances.

Neither union nor management cares two about what the workers care or want or think will work. Shut UP and follow the leader.

I feared this is the exactly direction we are heading. The mandatory 30 minutes lunch break will soon be upon us. Now they want to know whether we case our dps or not. It’s a matter of time we will be taking the dps to the streets.

 

[neciat]

How is 86ppm a fair standard to sort through dps (verify address)?

Don't think for a second that the time "standard" for DPS is from the engineers. There are 60 seconds in a minute. That's .6976 seconds per letter to make the 86 ppm. The average person blinks 4 TIMES in ONE minute. That's ONCE every 15 seconds. There are numerous standards that are suspect at best.

 

[Haygrrl]

I just wish we could get at least the 15 mins per tray on the street instead of the 5 min per tray.
Part of me hopes when all us "dps to the street carriers" are consistently over on our street times, they might change our standard. It"s an additional 40 mins per day I am missing out on when I get 4 trays. I already have 52 weeks of data to show the discrepancy. I just hope it's obvious.
All you folks that case dps should be over in office time by the additional 15 mins per tray you case plus a little more for the additional work to strap out. Maybe this isn't what they are looking at and they won't give a crap to pay us fairly. How is 86ppm a fair standard to sort through dps (verify address)?

I am over about an hour,but I'm lucky bc management says as long as I make the truck it's ok...the old saying, it's not what time you leave, but the time you get back
I'd like to see district geeks move their desks and computers out onto the side of a street and get the job done safer & .ore efficient...

 

[Haygrrl]

wish i could remember who posted this, so sorry... "the reason city carriers don't object to taking dps to the street? because they know it takes more time, more time is more money!"

Exactly ...why kill the goose that lays the golden egg...in our office they're laughing all the way to the bank..

 

[Haygrrl]

I am curious do you have hand/finger/wrist problems from years of casing DPS ??

Nope...& I have a 46k

 

[stillfirstclass]

I'd like to see district geeks move their desks and computers out onto the side of a street and get the job done safer & .ore efficient...

another quote for me to liberate! love it

 

[stillfirstclass]

I'd like to see district geeks move their desks and computers out onto the side of a street and get the job done safer & more efficient... thank you Haygrrl

 

[jeng]

Not sure anyone is dicking around. I just expect to work my 8.6 hours a day and be paid for them not paid for 7.

correct

 

[gotstamps]

For the people taking it to the street do you still plan on getting the credits for upside down?

Why would it matter? It’s on the Carrier to keep track of those #s for 1 per 4 credit.

 

[too many yrs left]

Why would it matter? It’s on the Carrier to keep track of those #s for 1 per 4 credit.

But that's why I asked!! I'm just curious how I can accurately keep track of that number while I am delivering mail at the same time...

 

[hockey94]

Nope...& I have a 46k

That is good, I have seen many carriers who have physical ailments from many years of casing dps, along with more "stuff" to pull down !!!

 

[stillfirstclass]

Why would it matter? It’s on the Carrier to keep track of those #s for 1 per 4 credit.

count hasn't even started yet and i have already been called a liar and cheat... well guilty as charged, i've been calling these butt heads liars and cheats since they started lying and cheating!!!!!!

 

[neciat]

But that's why I asked!! I'm just curious how I can accurately keep track of that number while I am delivering mail at the same time...

AND at the rate of 86ppm !!!