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Metris

They're just ok.
They are great compared to the LLVs. Mine was in the shop the last 4 days for service and stuck with a slow, loud, cold, LLV that would barely stay on the road above 40. The Metris is terrible in the snow but pretty good when not broken. It seems to be getting better with age but only at 65k and can't remember how many tires and brakes it's went through. The side doors make it easy to load and deliver parcels out of.
 
I've only used either a few times, but the Metris is so far better for fetching packages. You can reach quickly, easily from both sides and back. Lean into mostly to reach them. WAY better, IMO.
 
Metris are ok. lots of electrical gremlins in mine. finally got the door chimes to shut off. But I have 5 warning lights right now. low coolant..its not low. tire monitor not working. traction control not working. Its all going to come down to how well the po decides to maintain them. I see no way they last because of the way they are being maintained at my office.
 
Metris are ok. lots of electrical gremlins in mine. finally got the door chimes to shut off. But I have 5 warning lights right now. low coolant..its not low. tire monitor not working. traction control not working. Its all going to come down to how well the po decides to maintain them. I see no way they last because of the way they are being maintained at my office.
They had to come ti our office and replace all of the cargo area door mechanisms. The back and left side door wouldn't open any longer so they came to the office and changed them as they got it fixed the the right wouldn't open. So it got a new one also. But with the cage it could have been hard to do if no doors opened. Our VMF have been doing a good job keeping it repaired and maintained.
 
my biggest worry is they wont fix things like ac and radio and all the other little things that will eventually go wrong. And that they will not have any spares for when the vehicles break down.
 
my biggest worry is they wont fix things like ac and radio and all the other little things that will eventually go wrong. And that they will not have any spares for when the vehicles break down.
They don't have many spares for emergencies but usually have a llv for scheduled maintenance. I don't think I would last long if I had to drive a llv permanently.
 
We just got five of the RAM's..looks like U-Turns will be impossible. Also not interested in three point turns. Looks like going to the next intersection and make my U-Turn there. Sounds like additional distance for the route.
 
Very usable. Double the space of the LLV, it actually starts and runs when you need it to. They are very quick even when under heavy load and brake very well too unlike the LLVs. Unlike LLVs they don't suffer from random immolation. Their weakness is traction and tire wear made worse by incompetent VMF. If you have the opportunity set the tire pressures correctly according to OE specs and you will have less issues.
 
We just got five of the RAM's..looks like U-Turns will be impossible. Also not interested in three point turns. Looks like going to the next intersection and make my U-Turn there. Sounds like additional distance for the route.
Wow, didn't realize they use pro masters for delivery. Are those rural rts?
 
Better simply because of adequate HVAC and safety features.

LLV has a little shorter wheelbase so it's more maneuverable, you sit higher and the window is much larger so you are more able to reach high or low boxes. A Metris is much more like delivering out a POV, smaller window, and you sit down in it. Not really better or worse just different.

There is way less room up front in the Metris. You can fit two half trays in the floor and three on the table, that's all. In an LLV I like to put two flats and one spur tray on the table, then lay my DPS on the floor so I don't have to move the heavy flats trays more than once. Ain't happening in a Metris.

I usually stage my packages near the bulkhead door or on the left hand shelf where I can reach back and grab them quickly without leaving the seat in an LLV. Can't do that on the Metris because of the cage, but you can dismount and go through the side door easily enough.
 
Better simply because of adequate HVAC and safety features.

LLV has a little shorter wheelbase so it's more maneuverable, you sit higher and the window is much larger so you are more able to reach high or low boxes. A Metris is much more like delivering out a POV, smaller window, and you sit down in it. Not really better or worse just different.

There is way less room up front in the Metris. You can fit two half trays in the floor and three on the table, that's all. In an LLV I like to put two flats and one spur tray on the table, then lay my DPS on the floor so I don't have to move the heavy flats trays more than once. Ain't happening in a Metris.

I usually stage my packages near the bulkhead door or on the left hand shelf where I can reach back and grab them quickly without leaving the seat in an LLV. Can't do that on the Metris because of the cage, but you can dismount and go through the side door easily enough.
I put my mail in flat tubs. If you case dps, you can put four flat tubs on the table. Which is typically almost two hours on the route. Put a few packages on top, and you hardly have to go into the back.
 
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