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babybago

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I have just taken a new aux route and was offered 5/1 or the 6/0. I opted for the 6/0. Once that route starts, Sep 26, that is the only route the office can "force" me to do, correct? I'm being told, I'll be pulled off the aux route all the time as is being done in other offices.
 
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babybago -- " I have just taken a new aux route and was offered 5/1 or the 6/0. I opted for the 6/0. Once that route starts, Sep 26, that is the only route the office can "force" me to do, correct? I'm being told, I'll be pulled off the aux route all the time as is being done in other offices. "

-- Article 30.2.G.5. AFTER completion of the assigned auxiliary route or primary route assignment [ N/A in your 6/0 situation ] , a leave replacement assigned to serve the auxiliary route MAY be utilized on any other auxiliary route, or serve as a leave replacement or provide auxiliary assistance on any regular route.

-- If pulled off prior to completing your AUX, hand manglement a 8191.

-- You can thank Arbitrator Clarke for that change...
Auxially carriers can be made to do other things after they finish their route daily at 30.2 and is the first to be used on sunday amazon after ARCS, PTFs, and volunteers.
 
babybago -- " I have just taken a new aux route and was offered 5/1 or the 6/0. I opted for the 6/0. Once that route starts, Sep 26, that is the only route the office can "force" me to do, correct? I'm being told, I'll be pulled off the aux route all the time as is being done in other offices. "

-- Article 30.2.G.5. AFTER completion of the assigned auxiliary route or primary route assignment [ N/A in your 6/0 situation ] , a leave replacement assigned to serve the auxiliary route MAY be utilized on any other auxiliary route, or serve as a leave replacement or provide auxiliary assistance on any regular route.

-- If pulled off prior to completing your AUX, hand manglement a 8191.

-- You can thank Arbitrator Clarke for that change. Prior to that, an AUX carrier could only perform certain duties when finished with the assigned route - as addressed in Step 4 ( R-4 ):

- non-craft specific duties such as Express Mail or collections
- Auxiliary assistance on the primary route, if the leave replacement is not serving the auxiliary route six day per week.
- there are no other leave replacements available to be scheduled or called into work.

-- You did not mention the evaluation of your AUX.

-- Get familiar with Step 4 ( R-96 ) in part: However, except in emergency situations [ warning - EVERYTHING is an emergency to manglement] management MUST NOT schedule a leave replacement to serve on two full assignments or one full assignment and one or more partial assignments in a single day, IF the evaluations of these assignments total twelve hours or more.

-- Just because, on paper, the evaluation total is under 12 hours, there is no guarantee that the carrier can complete the assignments in under 12 hours. So take your time to run the assignments SAFELY and don't forget the 30-minute lunch break.

-- If you do work over 12 hours in one day, manglement will have to notify District personnel. Manglement does not like to do that!

-- If ordered to another office far away, drive there safely.
 
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Auxially carriers can be made to do other things after they finish their route daily at 30.2 and is the first to be used on sunday amazon after ARCS, PTFs, and volunteers.
So the priority is the aux route first, then basically help. We don't have Amazon Sunday in our location, thank goodness.
 
babybago -- " I have just taken a new aux route and was offered 5/1 or the 6/0. I opted for the 6/0. Once that route starts, Sep 26, that is the only route the office can "force" me to do, correct? I'm being told, I'll be pulled off the aux route all the time as is being done in other offices. "

-- Article 30.2.G.5. AFTER completion of the assigned auxiliary route or primary route assignment [ N/A in your 6/0 situation ] , a leave replacement assigned to serve the auxiliary route MAY be utilized on any other auxiliary route, or serve as a leave replacement or provide auxiliary assistance on any regular route.

-- If pulled off prior to completing your AUX, hand manglement a 8191.

-- You can thank Arbitrator Clarke for that change. Prior to that, an AUX carrier could only perform certain duties when finished with the assigned route - as addressed in Step 4 ( R-4 ):

- non-craft specific duties such as Express Mail or collections
- Auxiliary assistance on the primary route, if the leave replacement is not serving the auxiliary route six day per week.
- there are no other leave replacements available to be scheduled or called into work.

-- You did not mention the evaluation of your AUX.

-- Get familiar with Step 4 ( R-96 ) in part: However, except in emergency situations [ warning - EVERYTHING is an emergency to manglement] management MUST NOT schedule a leave replacement to serve on two full assignments or one full assignment and one or more partial assignments in a single day, IF the evaluations of these assignments total twelve hours or more.

-- Just because, on paper, the evaluation total is under 12 hours, there is no guarantee that the carrier can complete the assignments in under 12 hours. So take your time to run the assignments SAFELY and don't forget the 30-minute lunch break.

-- If you do work over 12 hours in one day, manglement will have to notify District personnel. Manglement does not like to do that!

-- If ordered to another office far away, drive there safely.
Well, I'm new(er) at this, and was told they'd pull me off aux route to do other routes.
I don't know all the specifics other than once district gets it back to us it'll be 2 hour ish, in middle of day. Its still more hours than the 1 reg route I was covering.
Next, I am the aux route coverage...not leave replacement. I was told its mine. Am I'm missing something with the leave replacement terminology?
Also, manglement!! Love it
Where do I get this 8191? Thinking its probably not readily available to me. Ha
 
8191 is your basic grievance form, available on the NRLCA website (and probably here too) Your ADR or shop steward has them as well. If you need to file call your union rep and they will guide you through the process so you put the right stuff in the right places on the form, and don't fill out stuff you don't need to fill out.

Did you mean the Aux route is two hours a day, or the time you'd be pulled off the route is two hours a day.....?

"Doing" the aux route is different than being assigned the route. When it's your route, you change on your Form 50 to a leave earning (you get AL and SL) and it's yours, just like a regular's route. (except you can be used for other work as well, and regulars can't)

You might want to clarify that with your manglement.
 
8191 is your basic grievance form, available on the NRLCA website (and probably here too) Your ADR or shop steward has them as well. If you need to file call your union rep and they will guide you through the process so you put the right stuff in the right places on the form, and don't fill out stuff you don't need to fill out.

Did you mean the Aux route is two hours a day, or the time you'd be pulled off the route is two hours a day.....?

"Doing" the aux route is different than being assigned the route. When it's your route, you change on your Form 50 to a leave earning (you get AL and SL) and it's yours, just like a regular's route. (except you can be used for other work as well, and regulars can't)

You might want to clarify that with your manglement.
Thank you for the clarification. I'm being assigned the route. It is new due to reg routes getting oversized. It is a whopping 2 hours a day, but our area is growing by neighborhoods at a time. I was warned manglement would pull me off this aux route to fill in on other reg routes. If its my priority, they can really only "add to" my day, not stick me on other routes. That is good. Help is one thing, throwing me on routes I don't know is another.
Thanks again everyone
 
babybago -- " Next, I am the aux route coverage...not leave replacement."

-- I was told [ an AUX ] it's mine. Am I'm missing something with the leave replacement terminology?"

-- Terminology rears its ugly head once again! Check Article 7 for the different classification of employees. Each will have a specific classification, but unless you are a regular carrier ( Designation 71 ), all the other designations are lumped together and called simply a "leave replacement."

-- Once you have been on your AUX for more than 90 CALENDAR days, you should be getting a new Form 50, designating you a Designation 79 ( an RCA appointed via From 50 after being assigned to an auxiliary route. ) Keep track of those 90 calendar days as sometimes manglement will need a reminder to send in the paperwork for your new designation. ( KEEP all your Form 50's as well as Pay Stubs -- for future reference )

" Where do I get this 8191? Thinking its probably not readily available to me."

-- Be POSITIVE!! ALL USPS forms are suppose to be readily available to its carriers -- the forms are required to do the job!

-- Ask manglement for one. They SHOULD have it in the office. If not, that is another grievance as manglement is suppose to have ALL forms -- PO-603, Section 142.3.

-- Search for "8191" in RI's KNOWLEDGEBASE Section at the top of the page or Google it.

" It is a whopping 2 hours a day,"

-- Be POSITIVE!!

-- Not to worry as the AUX will be growing soon enough.

-- Besides, it is YOURS, so you will know for certain where you will be working each day -- at least for 2 hours!

-- Don't forget, you will be earning annual and sick leave ( only while running the AUX ) -- based on the number of hours you work. Granted, it won't be much, but it will set you apart from other "leave replacements" who don't earn annual and sick leave.

" Help is one thing, throwing me on routes I don't know is another. "

-- Sorry to day, with a 2-hr a day AUX, expect to get thrown on to new routes.

-- On the plus side, you will be WORKING and EARNING $$ and learning bits and pieces, if not entire routes. That will come in handy when manglement asks "Anyone know this route?".
 
babybago -- " Next, I am the aux route coverage...not leave replacement."

-- I was told [ an AUX ] it's mine. Am I'm missing something with the leave replacement terminology?"

-- Terminology rears its ugly head once again! Check Article 7 for the different classification of employees. Each will have a specific classification, but unless you are a regular carrier ( Designation 71 ), all the other designations are lumped together and called simply a "leave replacement."

-- Once you have been on your AUX for more than 90 CALENDAR days, you should be getting a new Form 50, designating you a Designation 79 ( an RCA appointed via From 50 after being assigned to an auxiliary route. ) Keep track of those 90 calendar days as sometimes manglement will need a reminder to send in the paperwork for your new designation. ( KEEP all your Form 50's as well as Pay Stubs -- for future reference )

" Where do I get this 8191? Thinking its probably not readily available to me."

-- Be POSITIVE!! ALL USPS forms are suppose to be readily available to its carriers -- the forms are required to do the job!

-- Ask manglement for one. They SHOULD have it in the office. If not, that is another grievance as manglement is suppose to have ALL forms -- PO-603, Section 142.3.

-- Search for "8191" in RI's KNOWLEDGEBASE Section at the top of the page or Google it.

" It is a whopping 2 hours a day,"

-- Be POSITIVE!!

-- Not to worry as the AUX will be growing soon enough.

-- Besides, it is YOURS, so you will know for certain where you will be working each day -- at least for 2 hours!

-- Don't forget, you will be earning annual and sick leave ( only while running the AUX ) -- based on the number of hours you work. Granted, it won't be much, but it will set you apart from other "leave replacements" who don't earn annual and sick leave.

" Help is one thing, throwing me on routes I don't know is another. "

-- Sorry to day, with a 2-hr a day AUX, expect to get thrown on to new routes.

-- On the plus side, you will be WORKING and EARNING $$ and learning bits and pieces, if not entire routes. That will come in handy when manglement asks "Anyone know this route?".
Great content! As usual, I hit a few toplines and you came through with the details!
 
Auxially carriers can be made to do other things after they finish their route daily at 30.2 and is the first to be used on sunday amazon after ARCS, PTFs, and volunteers.
There is no actual “first to be used” for Sunday Amazon except for Volunteers first after ARCS. All Leave Replacements EXCEPT for Des 74s are placed into alphabetical order in 2 lists; Volunteer & non-Volunteer. Des 74s are LAST resort. Mgmt may pass over a Leave Replacement if they are already scheduled 40 hours.
 
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