NRLCA Reaches Tentative Agreement with USPS for Three-Year Contract

[hockey94]

Oh I was being sarcastic too about the union response to them being forced elsewhere well we gave them an extra dollar. They can't want anything more now.

That would be how the union response to it.

That extra dollar will be worth .25, by the time they actually get a raise.

 

[LEFTINGUTTER]

I sympathize with any carrier who has a POV and didn't realize what your financial "incentives" were. Totally agree with increasing ema for those carriers.

From outside looking in it's frankly a slap in the face with inflation and all costs going up.

Our office is going to make an 4 hour AUX route POV soon.
Gee I wonder how many of the remaining RCA's we have are going to jump at the opportunity to deliver rural boxes from the left hand side and be the express runner 6 days a week.

I'm a no vote fully recognizing an arbitrator won't make it better. It's what it is.

SAME HERE

You do know mgmt is able to carry, right? If you need a day off and that is the only option...tell them to saddle up. They might like the change. And file a grievance for the day off. Ask your steward not to settle below step 2 to get districts attention.

If they can drive a lot have DUIs

 

[LEFTINGUTTER]

I sympathize with any carrier who has a POV and didn't realize what your financial "incentives" were. Totally agree with increasing ema for those carriers.

From outside looking in it's frankly a slap in the face with inflation and all costs going up.

Our office is going to make an 4 hour AUX route POV soon.
Gee I wonder how many of the remaining RCA's we have are going to jump at the opportunity to deliver rural boxes from the left hand side and be the express runner 6 days a week.

I'm a no vote fully recognizing an arbitrator won't make it better. It's what it is.

Better to vote NO if people vote yes out of fear of what arbitrators will do are wrong. That only gives the power to mgmt to say well you voted for it so suck it up. i cast my vote by dropping the union and taking my money away till they deliver for us I feel paying them is TAXATION WITH OUT REPRESENTATION.

 

[ATCBigE]

You do know mgmt is able to carry, right? If you need a day off and that is the only option...tell them to saddle up. They might like the change. And file a grievance for the day off. Ask your steward not to settle below step 2 to get districts attention.

They have carried but only the easy parts of cbus and they just give me Monday help. It isn't even worth. I'm just tired of it.

After bailing out all of these offices in my are almost 7 years when I get regular I can't get anything back. That's what ticks me off.

 

[Gotrope]

Better to vote NO if people vote yes out of fear of what arbitrators will do are wrong. That only gives the power to mgmt to say well you voted for it so suck it up. i cast my vote by dropping the union and taking my money away till they deliver for us I feel paying them is TAXATION WITH OUT REPRESENTATION.

It's also makes you powerless in elections and contracts. Yes, nrlca has had a 25 year history of big loss but, in this particular contract - a few gains for workplace conditions.

I think the delegates, at all levels, has a hand in forcing new people into decision spots. I know it really related the nrlca board that 2 longer term people were voted out by a big margin. That does start some new conversation and direction when voting members drop you like a trail puck.
They stop thinking about safe decisions and look to real change. Because, Lord knows they don't want to go back to their routes - voluntarily.
We have some math people on the board now. At least, we have two. Who knows - maybe this convention will add more mathies.

 

[Gotrope]

They have carried but only the easy parts of cbus and they just give me Monday help. It isn't even worth. I'm just tired of it.

After bailing out all of these offices in my are almost 7 years when I get regular I can't get anything back. That's what ticks me off.

I'd force them to carry every relief day. Or file and get data pay for extra work from lack of relief. It has been known to happen that a carrier files for constant cleanup and they get a vacation day/ OT or both for coming back to a mess.

It also encourages mgmt at all levels to start finding rcas. Hiring or loaning. They could always use a former RCA that works as a cca. And check if your scans are correct after a day off. Don't let them screw you twice.

 

[btdtret]

Gotrope et al -- "We have some math people on the board now. At least, we have two. Who knows - maybe this convention will add more mathies."

-- Certainly hope the "math" people on the board will be able to convince the others that 1.3% raises are not good when inflation is at 2.4%!

 

[ATCBigE]

I'd force them to carry every relief day. Or file and get data pay for extra work from lack of relief. It has been known to happen that a carrier files for constant cleanup and they get a vacation day/ OT or both for coming back to a mess.

It also encourages mgmt at all levels to start finding rcas. Hiring or loaning. They could always use a former RCA that works as a cca. And check if your scans are correct after a day off. Don't let them screw you twice.

You either get that or they have to give you help. That's what union told me. They always gave me help.

 

[Packager]

The only noteworthy benefits I see are for RCA's. Furthermore, while it's nice for RCA's to have a shorter probationary period and quick eligibility for postings, it dramatically reduces our already severely-limited job mobility by basically eliminating most all district postings.

I have seen a lot of horrendous RCA's end up quitting right around the 6 month mark, and most awful ones quit within 6-12 months. Now, USPS will be stuck with them as regulars.

 

[lbpd16]

The National Rural Letter Carriers’ Association and the United States Postal Service have negotiated a Tentative Agreement to cover the three-year period from May 21, 2024 to May 20, 2027. This Tentative Agreement must be ratified by a majority of the voting membership of the NRLCA to become effective. A more detailed explanation of the ... Read more

“The Tentative Agreement provides for substantial gains in wages and benefits for all classifications of rural carriers.”

0.3% more than usual over 3 years is a substantial gain in wages???

Have they even looked at the increase in health insurance each year and inflation???

Worthless union. Clown show.

Now that I’m in apwu I’m sure that same crappy contract is coming my way any day now.

No ability to strike = no leverage. We just have to take what the useless arbitrator gives. Still glad city had the balls to reject that crappy contract.

 

[nc state]

City carriers got $1,000 added top step and 1% added to each year. They are getting 7.2% plus a $1,000.
we are getting 4.2%. Not fair

 

[bustaraven]

So does anyone know if the new contract will allow RCA's to quit working after 12 hrs a day or 60 hrs in a week with no punishment, like the CCAs are allowed to?

 

[ATCBigE]

City carriers got $1,000 added top step and 1% added to each year. They are getting 7.2% plus a $1,000.
we are getting 4.2%. Not fair

How about about getting 46 weeks cut off to get to top step compared to a measly 30 weeks??

 

[Beffannie]

There used to be.

Truth. If I were on Table 1, I'd be at $30/hr and $10k more per year.

 

[crazydoglady]

Screw the added rhd incentive. It's really a pittance, and far too hard to get anyway. Increase the ema. Auto parts are way more than they used to be and only going to get worse; insurance is skyrocketing; and shop labor is usually $100+ an hour now.

If you live on the Oregon Coast or anywhere that gas is extremely expensive, you're getting screwed, too. Ours is anywhere from 4.09 to 4.29 locally. We get paid based on the national average.

 

[crazydoglady]

All -- A tip of the hat to "Ruralinfo" for soldiering on despite personal problems to keep the members informed.

-- Regarding the tentative contract -- "The NRLCA National Board unanimously believes the Tentative Agreement is fair and reasonable and is in the best interests of the 131,000 hardworking rural letter carriers across the country."

- details: probably more good items than not so good - which is usual in any contract the NRLCA has "negotiated".

-- My concern would be calling the contract "fair" as not a good indicator. At least based upon the USPS standards of: poor / fair / good / excellent / outstanding / stellar.

-- Old timers might remember then-President Pitts called the 2006 tentative contract excellent. However, the membership didn't think the same and voted it down ( handily ), leading to arbitration. Arbitrator Fishgold was not happy that the APWU and the NPMHU signed their contract offers while the NRLCA did not. He also told the parties that there would not be any significant changes to the "basic economic terms" of the proposed contract. So the membership got pretty much what was in the tentative agreement.

-- At least the NRLCA has joined the other unions in allowing career members to sell back 40 hours of annual leave.

-- Still needs wording that provides for COLA even when a contract has expired ( JMHO ) as carriers are still working. Arbitrator Clarke put in a mail count for 2016 for the 2012-2015 contract.

-- Retroactive COLA - probably paid as "administratively practicable". RCA's may have to wait 180 days on their increases.

-- As a disclaimer, I've been out a l-o-n-g, so don't really have a horse in this race.

I just hope it will get ratified before the end of the year. I'd like to sell some leave. I wish I could do it now before my payout. As soon as my route goes down, May 17, so does the value of my leave. Argh.

 

[Gotrope]

If you live on the Oregon Coast or anywhere that gas is extremely expensive, you're getting screwed, too. Ours is anywhere from 4.09 to 4.29 locally. We get paid based on the national average.

$5.09 here

 

[Shannonboy]

$5.09 here

$2.62 here.

 

[Shannonboy]

And it's going down....last week was $2.75...

 

[ATCBigE]

The issue is you can't make some universal when things are so different across the nation.