Open routes in other offices...
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Charlie Brown
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Aux. routes are not "bid" there are to be offered to all of the RCA's in the office by seniority. If you know of other offices with Aux. routes that don't have an RCA assigned then you could request a transfer to one of those offices. (If you're past probation) Those offices are probably short handed and none of the current RCA's wants the Aux. maybe because of the POV thing. If you do transfer you lose all seniority and go to the bottom in the new office, you can still get the Aux. and not be bumped but you're still the junior carrier.
<blockquote class="spPostEmbedQuote"><strong>Charlie Brown said </strong>
Aux. routes are not "bid" there are to be offered to all of the RCA's in the office by seniority. If you know of other offices with Aux. routes that don't have an RCA assigned then you could request a transfer to one of those offices. (If you're past probation) Those offices are probably short handed and none of the current RCA's wants the Aux. maybe because of the POV thing. If you do transfer you lose all seniority and go to the bottom in the new office, you can still get the Aux. and not be bumped but you're still the junior carrier. </blockquote>
Thats interesting... When an aux route became open in our office all of the senior subs said that if no one takes it someone from a different office can come in a take it and their seniority would transfer with them to our office.
Aux. routes are not "bid" there are to be offered to all of the RCA's in the office by seniority. If you know of other offices with Aux. routes that don't have an RCA assigned then you could request a transfer to one of those offices. (If you're past probation) Those offices are probably short handed and none of the current RCA's wants the Aux. maybe because of the POV thing. If you do transfer you lose all seniority and go to the bottom in the new office, you can still get the Aux. and not be bumped but you're still the junior carrier. </blockquote>
Thats interesting... When an aux route became open in our office all of the senior subs said that if no one takes it someone from a different office can come in a take it and their seniority would transfer with them to our office.
<blockquote class="spPostEmbedQuote"><strong>hbrooks55 said </strong>
Thats interesting... When an aux route became open in our office all of the senior subs said that if no one takes it someone from a different office can come in a take it and their seniority would transfer with them to our office. </blockquote>
Whoever told you this is either lying or doesn't know what they are talking about. The only time seniority carries during a transfer is if the entire office is merged.
Thats interesting... When an aux route became open in our office all of the senior subs said that if no one takes it someone from a different office can come in a take it and their seniority would transfer with them to our office. </blockquote>
Whoever told you this is either lying or doesn't know what they are talking about. The only time seniority carries during a transfer is if the entire office is merged.
Deer Smearer
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<blockquote class="spPostEmbedQuote"><strong>Jarod1231 said </strong>
Whoever told you this is either lying or doesn't know what they are talking about. <strong>The only time</strong> seniority carries during a transfer is if the entire office is merged. </blockquote>
Almost.
30.2.F.2. When a regular rural route is transferred from one office to another, the substitute, rural carrier associate, or rural carrier relief employee designated to serve the route being transferred shall be privileged to transfer with the route to the new office. If the employee transfers with the route, the transferring employee retains seniority gained at the original office, and the employee’s seniority is merged with the seniority of all substitutes, rural carrier associates, and rural carrier relief employees assigned to the same finance number in the new office.
Whoever told you this is either lying or doesn't know what they are talking about. <strong>The only time</strong> seniority carries during a transfer is if the entire office is merged. </blockquote>
Almost.
30.2.F.2. When a regular rural route is transferred from one office to another, the substitute, rural carrier associate, or rural carrier relief employee designated to serve the route being transferred shall be privileged to transfer with the route to the new office. If the employee transfers with the route, the transferring employee retains seniority gained at the original office, and the employee’s seniority is merged with the seniority of all substitutes, rural carrier associates, and rural carrier relief employees assigned to the same finance number in the new office.
Jarod1231 et al -- "Whoever told you this is either lying or doesn’t know what they are talking about. The only time seniority carries during a transfer is if the entire office is merged."
-- Almost Part 2: Page 24 and 28 of the new contract --
12.2.C.1 -- A rural carrier who is involuntarily reassigned to a rural carrier position at another post office retains seniority for bidding on existing vacancies and on future vacancies.
12.2.C.8 -- When two or more offices are involved in a route consolidation which results in an excess rural carrier, the junior carrier of the offices involved shall be declared excess, provided there is a substandard route at the office. A senior rural carrier may elect to be reassigned in lieu of any junior rural carrier subject to reassignment, and such reassignment shall be considered involuntary.
12.5.A.2.a. -- If the transfer of territory results in an excess carrier and the rural carrier elects to be reassigned with the route or substantial portion thereof, such reassignment shall be involuntary, and the employee retains that seniority in accordance with 12.2.C.1. If the incumbent does not elect to be reassigned, the junior rural carrier will be involuntarily reassigned to the office where the territory was transferred with the carrier's own seniority
-- Almost Part 2: Page 24 and 28 of the new contract --
12.2.C.1 -- A rural carrier who is involuntarily reassigned to a rural carrier position at another post office retains seniority for bidding on existing vacancies and on future vacancies.
12.2.C.8 -- When two or more offices are involved in a route consolidation which results in an excess rural carrier, the junior carrier of the offices involved shall be declared excess, provided there is a substandard route at the office. A senior rural carrier may elect to be reassigned in lieu of any junior rural carrier subject to reassignment, and such reassignment shall be considered involuntary.
12.5.A.2.a. -- If the transfer of territory results in an excess carrier and the rural carrier elects to be reassigned with the route or substantial portion thereof, such reassignment shall be involuntary, and the employee retains that seniority in accordance with 12.2.C.1. If the incumbent does not elect to be reassigned, the junior rural carrier will be involuntarily reassigned to the office where the territory was transferred with the carrier's own seniority
I have a similar question, but would like to be able to find out about any open rural routes in other offices, not just aux routes. I was told by HRSSC that rural carriers can't use eReassign. I'm interested in openings within a certain area I'd like to move to. How do I find out about them?
EthelAnne
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<blockquote class="spPostEmbedQuote"><strong>HumuHumu said </strong>
I have a similar question, but would like to be able to find out about any open rural routes in other offices, not just aux routes. I was told by HRSSC that rural carriers can't use eReassign. I'm interested in openings within a certain area I'd like to move to. How do I find out about them? </blockquote>
If a vacant route cannot be filled by the carriers within an office, it gets posted district-wide. You can check to see if there are any district wide postings by selecting (I think) "district cluster" when you log into the job bidding system on Lite Blue. If nothing comes up, then that means there are no vacancies in your district.
Your PM is supposed to print and post these district wide openings in your office, FWIW.
I have a similar question, but would like to be able to find out about any open rural routes in other offices, not just aux routes. I was told by HRSSC that rural carriers can't use eReassign. I'm interested in openings within a certain area I'd like to move to. How do I find out about them? </blockquote>
If a vacant route cannot be filled by the carriers within an office, it gets posted district-wide. You can check to see if there are any district wide postings by selecting (I think) "district cluster" when you log into the job bidding system on Lite Blue. If nothing comes up, then that means there are no vacancies in your district.
Your PM is supposed to print and post these district wide openings in your office, FWIW.
gotstamps
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<blockquote class="spPostEmbedQuote"><strong>HumuHumu said </strong>
I have a similar question, but would like to be able to find out about any open rural routes in other offices, not just aux routes. I was told by HRSSC that rural carriers can't use eReassign. I'm interested in openings within a certain area I'd like to move to. How do I find out about them? </blockquote>
If the area that you want to move to is NOT in your same district, you cannot bid on it. To 'transfer' out of your district, you have to find someone to swap with. These swaps can be found online and listed in the union mags. Good luck!
I have a similar question, but would like to be able to find out about any open rural routes in other offices, not just aux routes. I was told by HRSSC that rural carriers can't use eReassign. I'm interested in openings within a certain area I'd like to move to. How do I find out about them? </blockquote>
If the area that you want to move to is NOT in your same district, you cannot bid on it. To 'transfer' out of your district, you have to find someone to swap with. These swaps can be found online and listed in the union mags. Good luck!
Thanks to EthelAnne and gotstamps. The likelihood of finding a mutual swap in my case is pretty low, and I understand that is a dicey process because if someone else in the other office wants the job that is opening, you can end up with something entirely different than you thought you were getting. It really sucks that we have so few options for moving around. The rural union leaves a lot to be desired.
What if a rural carrier wants to move into, say, a clerk job? Is that even possible?
What if a rural carrier wants to move into, say, a clerk job? Is that even possible?
EthelAnne
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<blockquote class="spPostEmbedQuote"><strong>HumuHumu said </strong>
What if a rural carrier wants to move into, say, a clerk job? Is that even possible? </blockquote>
It's possible, but you'd resign from your rural carrier position to take the clerk (PSE) position. There's no sort of lateral movement. PSEs make considerable less than RCAs, btw, but they get a number of benefits that RCAs do not.
What if a rural carrier wants to move into, say, a clerk job? Is that even possible? </blockquote>
It's possible, but you'd resign from your rural carrier position to take the clerk (PSE) position. There's no sort of lateral movement. PSEs make considerable less than RCAs, btw, but they get a number of benefits that RCAs do not.
gotstamps
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<blockquote class="spPostEmbedQuote"><strong>HumuHumu said </strong>
Thanks to EthelAnne and gotstamps. The likelihood of finding a mutual swap in my case is pretty low, and I understand that is a dicey process because if someone else in the other office wants the job that is opening, you can end up with something entirely different than you thought you were getting. It really sucks that we have so few options for moving around. The rural union leaves a lot to be desired.
What if a rural carrier wants to move into, say, a clerk job? Is that even possible? </blockquote>
No easy crossing crafts. You would also have to take the 'clerk test' and can only apply to the offices that show an opening. We have a sub at our office that took the test and is still waiting for an office months later. Good luck!
Thanks to EthelAnne and gotstamps. The likelihood of finding a mutual swap in my case is pretty low, and I understand that is a dicey process because if someone else in the other office wants the job that is opening, you can end up with something entirely different than you thought you were getting. It really sucks that we have so few options for moving around. The rural union leaves a lot to be desired.
What if a rural carrier wants to move into, say, a clerk job? Is that even possible? </blockquote>
No easy crossing crafts. You would also have to take the 'clerk test' and can only apply to the offices that show an opening. We have a sub at our office that took the test and is still waiting for an office months later. Good luck!
Sigh. I really wish all the postal unions would come together and stop turning every craft into a silo. The unions could be a lot more effective if they were all on the same page and working together! Isn't that what unionism is about? Why are we pitted against each other at every step?
When I worked for the federal government and then for the state government, every available position was posted and, if you were qualified, you could apply for anything! I started as a night shift cashier in a military airport and ended up as a fairly well-paid medical transcriptionist. For the state I started as a data entry operator and eventually became a library assistant.
The postal unions have made the process of moving around very, very difficult. It's no wonder positions are left open for months and no wonder morale is so low.
When I worked for the federal government and then for the state government, every available position was posted and, if you were qualified, you could apply for anything! I started as a night shift cashier in a military airport and ended up as a fairly well-paid medical transcriptionist. For the state I started as a data entry operator and eventually became a library assistant.
The postal unions have made the process of moving around very, very difficult. It's no wonder positions are left open for months and no wonder morale is so low.
EthelAnne
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<blockquote class="spPostEmbedQuote"><strong>HumuHumu said </strong>
Sigh. I really wish all the postal unions would come together and stop turning every craft into a silo. The unions could be a lot more effective if they were all on the same page and working together! Isn't that what unionism is about? Why are we pitted against each other at every step?
When I worked for the federal government and then for the state government, every available position was posted and, if you were qualified, you could apply for anything! I started as a night shift cashier in a military airport and ended up as a fairly well-paid medical transcriptionist. For the state I started as a data entry operator and eventually became a library assistant.
The postal unions have made the process of moving around very, very difficult. It's no wonder positions are left open for months and no wonder morale is so low. </blockquote>
There are conflicts of interest between the different crafts. For example, what might benefit clerks may not be the best thing for a carrier. The obstacles that are preventing you from moving around are protecting someone else's job (or overtime).
Sigh. I really wish all the postal unions would come together and stop turning every craft into a silo. The unions could be a lot more effective if they were all on the same page and working together! Isn't that what unionism is about? Why are we pitted against each other at every step?
When I worked for the federal government and then for the state government, every available position was posted and, if you were qualified, you could apply for anything! I started as a night shift cashier in a military airport and ended up as a fairly well-paid medical transcriptionist. For the state I started as a data entry operator and eventually became a library assistant.
The postal unions have made the process of moving around very, very difficult. It's no wonder positions are left open for months and no wonder morale is so low. </blockquote>
There are conflicts of interest between the different crafts. For example, what might benefit clerks may not be the best thing for a carrier. The obstacles that are preventing you from moving around are protecting someone else's job (or overtime).
