PM becoming a rural carrier
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justacarrier
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The closest thing you will find in Art. 12.3.E.1. I'm quite sure this would NOT apply in the situation you are asking but it would be the closest language I know of. Quite simply, no they cannot return as a rural carrier just because they don't like being postmaster. It's the lack of contractual language that seals the deal.
From 2015, but see #7 at end perhaps.
She mails rural
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We can leave our craft to never come back again is what I've always been told. Also you have to quit for 6 days then be rehired. Your seniority then starts all over again at the bottom.
DB.Cooper
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Here's my old timey story... I knew a rural carrier they put in as PM in a little one-horse office... The carrier was a Step 12 carrier on about a 46 hour route, and was typically done most days at noon or 1 o'clock..... After about a month of coming in way earlier, and staying until 4:30 or 5 everyday, and getting paid less, they begged to go back to their route, and somehow they did go back.... So, it can happen... I actually saw it happen... 
stillfirstclass
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It's Actually a 5-8% increase in raise as newer labor bargains are written. Just depends who hires you and where they place the pay.always told a 5 % raise...
5% of a 40K salary? That is low even at the highest step. Even a 42K salary would be more than that let alone a 46. I guess it also depends on the size of the office but even an 8% wouldn’t enough for me to take that job.always told a 5 % raise...
DB.Cooper
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This case was a number of years ago ... The one horse PM was retiring and the one horse carrier was going to step into the retiring PMs job.... And they actually did it for a month or so, and what forced the issue was the new PM was to the point they were going have to get off the rural carrier health insurance and such... they were hating life... Used to working from 8AM to noon, on a 46 hour route..... Then going to 7AM to 5PM for less pay and putting up with all sorts of nonsense.... There was all sorts of nepotism and favoritism and good ole boy cronyism going on along with this whole episode... it was sort of entertaining to watch... 
To your point, if the position was detail, where a craft employee is temporarily working at a higher level management position, I believe they can return. The only time.
That 46k back then would be an H route now under RRECSHere's my old timey story... I knew a rural carrier they put in as PM in a little one-horse office... The carrier was a Step 12 carrier on about a 46 hour route, and was typically done most days at noon or 1 o'clock..... After about a month of coming in way earlier, and staying until 4:30 or 5 everyday, and getting paid less, they begged to go back to their route, and somehow they did go back.... So, it can happen... I actually saw it happen...
justacarrier
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Yes there is info in the ELM, it points you back to collective bargaining agreements. Our CBA does not allow it to happen.
She mails rural
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Can't make that funny stuff upThis case was a number of years ago ... The one horse PM was retiring and the one horse carrier was going to step into the retiring PMs job.... And they actually did it for a month or so, and what forced the issue was the new PM was to the point they were going have to get off the rural carrier health insurance and such... they were hating life... Used to working from 8AM to noon, on a 46 hour route..... Then going to 7AM to 5PM for less pay and putting up with all sorts of nonsense.... There was all sorts of nepotism and favoritism and good ole boy cronyism going on along with this whole episode... it was sort of entertaining to watch...
, truth be known HR is so slow processing they probably just canceled the transfer. Idk 
♀ either way lmbo.
DB.Cooper
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I was the RCA covering the route while these shenanigans were going on, so I had a front row seat to it all... some retired PM/POOM showed up at the retirement party for the old outgoing PM... he used to be the PM for the retiring guy, and also for the current POOM.... so it was like ole homey week for them... and they were all up to their eyeballs in this whacko scheme to put this rural carrier into his position after he retired... and there were supervisors and other EAS that wanted the job, but that didn't matter... so they did what they wanted, regardless of how things are "supposed" to be done... that's why I always laugh when I read some of these posts saying only certain things are allowed... LOLCan't make that funny stuff up
... we've all been around long enuf to know, postal regulations and contracts are violated all the time... the only thing that would be surprising is if things were really done as they should be.. I recall a while back, somehow a route got bid district wide, and the office didn't want anybody outside the office to get it, so they had the senior carrier (Reg) bid on the route... Of course he got it, but then they just wangdangled some kinda way that he never moved off his route and they put who they wanted on the vacant route... nothing should surprise anybody when it comes to the USPS... If they can pull some sort of sneaky underhanded crap to meet their friends needs, that's what they'll do every time... and who here can honestly say they haven't seen this???? Promoted to position. I know you’re saying no but where is the language?
