PMG: 84% of city delivery routes and 52% of rural delivery routes are operating at a loss.

[LouSainus]

Post master general revealed this information this week to congress. Based on what I see on other forums and in my office of ~70 routes most city routes are around half the size of rural routes. How or when do they get adjusted for territory? The rural side being well... way more rural with some routes driving say 17 miles between mailboxes should cost 2-3x more per box compared to clustered together city routes. Yet they lose more the double the losses in terms of dollars compared to the rural craft. Is it because most management comes from the city craft and protects their tiny routes from scrutiny?

 

[NorthernPines]

Rural is more cost effective because of the nature of the routes.

On average, a rural route simply services significantly more households and businesses, and therefore, averages higher revenue per average route. There have been multiple OIG reports over the past decades that have pegged rural delivery as anywhere between the mid teens to 30%+ more cost efficient per delivery.

The super rural, 100+ mile, 7 box routes are more than offset by the far more numerous suburban rural routes, where you have a single carrier servicing 800, 1000+ households; that would require 3 or 4 city carriers to service on walking routes.

 

[DB.Cooper]

Clerks are operating at a 100% loss rate .. so in comparison, the carriers are doing pretty good ...

 

[ATCBigE]

Rural is more cost effective because of the nature of the routes.

On average, a rural route simply services significantly more households and businesses, and therefore, averages higher revenue per average route. There have been multiple OIG reports over the past decades that have pegged rural delivery as anywhere between the mid teens to 30%+ more cost efficient per delivery.

The super rural, 100+ mile, 7 box routes are more than offset by the far more numerous suburban rural routes, where you have a single carrier servicing 800, 1000+ households; that would require 3 or 4 city carriers to service on walking routes.

I know from city carrier in my office that worked in other offices that city route HUGELY vary. 1 office if they got 20-30 packages total, that was 8 hour day. Our office is 70-90 package total office each route. The difference in 8 hours between some offices is crazy.

Most rural route are fairly similar evaluated compared to each other. I have worked all over and IMO most routes are about what the should maybe plus an hour or so on a couple. Rural routes all seem fairly similar IMO.

 

[Rural-life-0323]

I'm an all rural office and I can see that. You could easily consolidate routes and drop about 2-3 routes in my small office.

Some of this will happen at some point since some carriers are complete morons and not doing RRECS correctly.

 

[calimailman]

Time for city to retire the satchel.

Also did Steiner let them know management which is bloated beyond belief operates at a 100% loss.