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Proper multiple trips procedure for large pick ups.

Rural-life-0323

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If your daily pickup volumes have exceeded the size your government vehicle can handle (fully loaded) and you have to return to do second or third trips, as a regular, what is the proper procedure under RRECS.

My understanding is you go to PMCasing, go back out, record the total miles and when you get back you record how much time it takes to unload again and that should be 8127 time since it's additional Return2Du time that you aren't getting and can't restart again. I've also read a letter that sounds like when you go back out to your pickup location you go into StartLoad and EndLoad time again.

Management claims the RSS managers says there is no 8127 time or load time, but I've heard otherwise. What is the, by the book, correct process to get paid right?

EDIT: I forget to add that this is on an 48K route, so an increase in the evaluation is not possible.
 
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While I am NOT entirely certain on the proper procedure, you might want to argue this from The Nat'l Agreement ;

13. Recurring Work Duties

When daily recurring work duties other than traditional
service functions are added to or removed from a route
after the latest route evaluation, the Employer shall
promptly determine time requirements for such added or
removed duties and authorize any appropriate
adjustment of evaluated compensation.

Now, carrier pickup MIGHT be considered as a traditional service function. Then again, maybe NOT. At any rate, daily or even weekly second and third trips are NOT.
 
Once done with all duties before heading back out pm casing, record miles for second trip pay. Once at location do another pick up rrecs scan or multiple if over 99 parcels. Once back at office start load to unload vehicle and properly place pick ups where they belong. Rinse repeat as many times as you need to. Have a pick up during peak I can pick up 500-3k+ parcels. This is how I always do it personally.
 
If your daily pickup volumes have exceeded the size your government vehicle can handle (fully loaded) and you have to return to do second or third trips, as a regular, what is the proper procedure under RRECS.

My understanding is you go to PMCasing, go back out, record the total miles and when you get back you record how much time it takes to unload again and that should be 8127 time since it's additional Return2Du time that you aren't getting and can't restart again. I've also read a letter that sounds like when you go back out to your pickup location you go into StartLoad and EndLoad time again.

Management claims the RSS managers says there is no 8127 time or load time, but I've heard otherwise. What is the, by the book, correct process to get paid right?

EDIT: I forget to add that this is on an 48K route, so an increase in the evaluation is not possible.
Unload is not part of the 2nd trip pay. That can be done under load time to add it into the evaluation.

2nd trip pay is simply 3 minutes per mile plus EMA if applicable.
 
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