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lbpd16

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I've just been a RCA for a couple days now.  My official work schedule is to relieve the regular on saturdays.Unofficially the office is understaffed.  3 new routes were added.  I also found out that many of the RCA's do not want to become career.There is a route that I gather nobody wants or maybe there just isn't anyone to do it regularly.  Every day I saw a different person doing it.  A supervisor had to deliver it one day.After working yesterday i was told to come in on monday to start learning that route.So i'm wondering if they will assign me that route or if they will have me work that route during the week and do the other route for the full timer on saturdays.  Or maybe I will just take turns with everyone else working that route.If I had a choice I would rather work one route all the time.Anyone care to guess how this will go for me?
 
Your goal should be to learn every route in the office.

I frequently bounce around and do a different route every day. I might work 5 days a week on 4 different routes.

Once you learn them all it isn't that big of a deal to run a different route everyday.
 
lbpg16 -- "If I had a choice I would rather work one route all the time."

-- As the saying goes: Careful what you wish for!

-- Working one route all the time could have you working just one ( J-route ) or two days ( K-route ) per pay period. If you've got a pension to rely on, that could work.

-- But being in a sub-short office, that will not be realistic.

-- Interesting to learn that some RCA's have no ambition to become a regular carrier.

-- In some post offices, manglement has not intention of training RCA's on any other route, so if manglement is willing to have you train on other routes - might as well go for it.

-- As "jacob6875" alluded to, the more routes you know the more "helpful" you can be to manglement. Most members of manglement hate scheduling, so if they can plug you in on several routes, so much the better -- for you. The over all result will be a larger pay check at the very least.

-- If not interested in a larger pay check, manglement does not really have to train you on more than 3 routes.

-- From Step 4 ( T-9.700 ) - in part:

a. Management is not required to train and utilize a replacement carrier on more than one route.

b. Management cannot require a replacement employee to be trained and utilized on more than three regular routes.

-- On the plus side, if you run a route you have never done before, you get ACTUAL TIME -- but only for the first day. From the second day and beyond, manglement considers you "trained" even though you will not be making evaluation for a while. Also ACTUAL TIME pops you when it has be a year of more since last running a route. Just keep a lo of routes run and the dates and pay stubs to help "jog" manglement's memory when you remind them to enter ACTUAL HOURS when inputting the pay data.
 
Reads, you will be working a lot in your office.

If thrown on multiple routes with or without training you will need to develop a thick skin and a pair of tight lips for a period of time in your office.

From experience.. When thrown cold onto a route and things are not delivered or misdelivered you might get some lip from the REG of the route involved. When this happens tell them to take it up with Management.
 
Faceinthewind,When you say lip, are you saying we have to tow-the-line with the regular? Merely saying, "Take it up with management." Seems like a way to make enemies. Are you pretty much saying everything will be our fault and to just accept it without taking it personally?Thanks 
 
<blockquote><div class="wpforo-post-quote-author"><strong>Posted by: lbpd16</strong></div>I've just been a RCA for a couple days now.  My official work schedule is to relieve the regular on saturdays.Unofficially the office is understaffed.  3 new routes were added.  I also found out that many of the RCA's do not want to become career.. . .If I had a choice I would rather work one route all the time.Anyone care to guess how this will go for me?</blockquote>@lbpd16, congrats on getting through your first few days.Most new RCAs start off as <span style="text-decoration: underline">only</span> a relief carrier for one route.  Then most of them are scheduled on "training" days for other routes.  This is how you end up on the matrix.Most people who work as RCAs want to work as much as they're entitled to.  When someone comes along that only wants to work one day a week, or only on one route, the other RCAs generally start to think, "Why can't I work when I want to?"  This tends to cause problems within an office eventually, even if you also have RCAs that want to work as much as possible.I've met some RCAs that only want to work one route, or only on Saturdays.  In my experience so far, they're retirees who want to supplement their incomes without killing themselves after retirement.  They all end up working when needed.If you only want to work on one route, try picking the worst possible matrix positions that you can after you've been "trained" on two other routes.  (You can only pick matrix positions on routes you've been "trained" on.)  If you're "trained" on two routes that don't have primary relief carriers, or second/third matrix positions ... well, you're SOL ... you're now the de facto primary on that route as well.  That should only happen if your office is truly understaffed.<span style="text-decoration: underline">I'm not really sure if you can refuse to pick spots on the matrix</span>, but even if you can, management can work you anywhere they want, even if you've never been "trained" on the route.  Those days suck -- I can say that from experience.Even if the route you're "trained" on has a primary, second, and third call on the matrix, there's still no guarantee that you you'll only ever work one route -- especially in an "unofficially" understaffed office.Management expects you to to do what they want-or-need when they want-or-need it.  It's now your job to do what they want-or-need when they want-or-need it.  If management was wrong in its "want-or-need", then you get to grieve it.  It's a real-life "sir, how high, sir?" job.In reality, your office may not be that hardcore, but it may very well end up being that way.  It generally depends on your managers and what pressure they're being put under by district managers.  So, even if you have a great manager, there's only so much they can do to shelter you.My advise would be to go with the flow, until you have a better understanding of things.  I didn't file my first grievance until I'd been an RCA for 8 years, not that I'd recommend waiting that long if the need arises.  If you can't stand the flow, get out.Good luck! PS - I only used "trained" in quotes because I've only seen RCAs "trained" by people whose only qualification is that they've run the route before.  If you're being trained by a qualified trainer, I take my quotations back.
 
check out my posts on one of the other threads.In a nutshell, I haven't had any real training.  A couple days riding along with my regular, then half the route one day and the whole route on saturday.Today they had me do an aux route by myself.  Its listed as vacant and i think they just try to find anyone to do it daily.  Never been on those streets.  Had to look on my phone to find out where some streets actually were.  But I made my way and did the route without calling for help.I'm semi-retired and really don't need the job, the work or the money.  I took it because I was tired of sitting around doing nothing.  The extra money will come in handy and the insurance is way cheaper than what I was paying.  Seems alot of the RCA's in my PO are in the same boat and have no interest in being a regular/career.  I'm not sure if career is something for me or not.  Only 2 supervisors at my post office.  The postmaster and 1 supervisor.  They have both been very nice and supportive so far.  I am the first hire since January and since I have half a brain I think they want to keep me around.  They are both extremely busy though.  Even to the point where I get to asking questions and after a few minutes I can tell I have to stop because they have more important work to do.It seems they are under extreme pressure to get mail and packages out and now that I have managed on my own they are glad to have a warm body to join the mayhem.For now i'm working whenever they need me and keeping my mouth shut.  Getting past my 90 days is my main goal at this point.
 
@T2015..You are your own person. You do not have to toe the line if you do not want to in regards to any REG actions/demands. Not all in any office get along swimmingly. I have been invited to personal events held by some and ignored by others in office. I don't care. I'm in office for a personal reason and that is called a paycheck.

As a bouncing RCA before 4003 covering multiple routes in many offices, here is the case and a map. The case is laid out so...

My mention of biting lip pertains to, 2 incidents as an RCA where I was given lip service from the REG or Management about my failures for the route covered with inadequate training. At some point the "right" button will be pushed about your failure.

From here a plethora of obscenities will spew from your lips about the REG failures of what was left behind for you and management failures loud enough for customers at the front window to hear. If in the AM and will find yourself called into the office.

If you are ever called into the office you are entitled to a REP. If no REP is available find anybody in office with gumption to view and repeat what was said in office.

I was written up and escorted out of office by management twice as an RCA for "explosive behavior". Still here as a REG and don't care what any RCA does covering my route because it's not my problem, it's theirs.
 
Faceinthewind,Thanks for sharing your experiences.  I'm sorry you dealt with that. Civility is a dying attribute. I spent years watching folks throw each other under the proverbial bus. I have a few tread marks too.Thanks for keeping it real. I'm glad you and others are on this forum to mentor and provide advice to us newbies.So far, my regular is helpful. I knew what I was getting into. It's all good. I developed a thick skin over the years. I'd like to say more, I'll save it for a PM when I am ready to combust.   ? I'm glad you stayed the course and made regular. Sounds like it was/is well deserved. 'Explosive behavior' is generally the result of poor communication/bad bosses and co-workers along with ridiculous bully tactics (as you described above.)I've seen it more times than I wish I had. People can only take just so much.With all that history has taught us about pushing people over the edge, one would think big organizations would learn. Disheartening to hear you went through that. Glad they were smart enough to keep you!  
 
learning lots of routes is good for getting hours and cash..but be warned..if the other rcas do not want to work..you will be given every crap job no one else wants..but thats kind of the way it goes for rcas anyway..
 
I figure being the new guy I will get the most work and crap that nobody else wants.  I have already had to do Aux routes after my regular sub route, have had to help others finish their routes so they make it back in time and have had to make runs to pick up from blue boxes and pick up parcels at other locations.I'm not complaining.  I really have nothing better to do so for me its just more money in my pocket.  I think the PM and supervisor are liking the fact that I take every job they throw at me and don't complain one bit.  I have a feeling this will ultimately lead to them depending on me most of the time whenever something extra (or crappy) needs to be done.  I guess this is both good and bad.
 
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