Route Postings
- Thread starter Twingrlie
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Twingrlie et al -- " We have an RCA on military leave and a route about to go up for bid. What is the policy when it comes to informing carriers when a route is up for bid that are on extended leave or military assignment? "
-- Sounds as if MOU #7, Paragraph #8 fits nicely:
When an absent regular, PTF, substitute, or RCA rural carrier has so requested in writing, stating the employee's mailing address, a copy of any notice inviting bids from the craft shall be mailed to the employee by the installation head.
-- Best get word to the absent RCA about requesting the bid be mailed to him / her.
-- Any idea where the RCA is while on military leave [ active duty? ] and or how to get in touch?
-- Any family member locally who could provide such info as well as providing the Post Office's address and phone # - just in case there is time.
-- Time factor: don't know if the PM would be willing to accept a phone call to speed things up.
-- Sounds as if MOU #7, Paragraph #8 fits nicely:
When an absent regular, PTF, substitute, or RCA rural carrier has so requested in writing, stating the employee's mailing address, a copy of any notice inviting bids from the craft shall be mailed to the employee by the installation head.
-- Best get word to the absent RCA about requesting the bid be mailed to him / her.
-- Any idea where the RCA is while on military leave [ active duty? ] and or how to get in touch?
-- Any family member locally who could provide such info as well as providing the Post Office's address and phone # - just in case there is time.
-- Time factor: don't know if the PM would be willing to accept a phone call to speed things up.
I can get in touch with her. I’m just curious what the policy is regarding management having to do so or if they don’t have an obligation to let her know if she’s not requesting it in writing.
gotstamps
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If she didn’t request to be notified, mgmt is under no obligation to reach out.
Morty -- " Is there a rule on bidding if in the military? "
-- I took the OP's "military leave" as being the person was doing his / her 2 weeks of annual reserve training, not as being on active duty.
-- I suppose there could be a scenario in which a person could active duty and an RCA though unlikely. ( Camp Swampy, perhaps? )
-- MOU #7 does allow an RCA to bid on a regular route or a PTF position if temporarily unable to fully perform the duties of a bid-for regular rural carrier or PTF IF the employee will be able to perform the duties within 6 months of when the bid was submitted. "Unable to fully perform" does not list any reason(s), so in theory, being on two-weeks reserve training or being temporarily called up for some type of local, state, or national "emergency" could apply.
-- ELM Section 517.11 Postal Service Support. The Postal Service supports employee service in the Reserve or National Guard, and no action is permitted to discourage either voluntary or involuntary participation. The Postal Service allows employees to be absent:
a. To participate in drills or meetings scheduled by the National Guard or Reserve Units of the armed forces.
b. To attend usual summer training periods.
c. To perform any other active duty ordered by the National Guard and Reserve Units of the armed forces.
-- F-21 ( Time and Attendance handbook ) Section 363.2. Employees must initiate a Form 3971 at the time they receive orders to report of duty. Upon return from military duty, the employee furnishes a copy of military orders properly endorsed by appropriate military authority to show the duty was actually performed. blah, blah, blah
-- Being bypassed? ( IMHO ) not likely if MOU #7 is adhered to. Anyone??
-- I took the OP's "military leave" as being the person was doing his / her 2 weeks of annual reserve training, not as being on active duty.
-- I suppose there could be a scenario in which a person could active duty and an RCA though unlikely. ( Camp Swampy, perhaps? )
-- MOU #7 does allow an RCA to bid on a regular route or a PTF position if temporarily unable to fully perform the duties of a bid-for regular rural carrier or PTF IF the employee will be able to perform the duties within 6 months of when the bid was submitted. "Unable to fully perform" does not list any reason(s), so in theory, being on two-weeks reserve training or being temporarily called up for some type of local, state, or national "emergency" could apply.
-- ELM Section 517.11 Postal Service Support. The Postal Service supports employee service in the Reserve or National Guard, and no action is permitted to discourage either voluntary or involuntary participation. The Postal Service allows employees to be absent:
a. To participate in drills or meetings scheduled by the National Guard or Reserve Units of the armed forces.
b. To attend usual summer training periods.
c. To perform any other active duty ordered by the National Guard and Reserve Units of the armed forces.
-- F-21 ( Time and Attendance handbook ) Section 363.2. Employees must initiate a Form 3971 at the time they receive orders to report of duty. Upon return from military duty, the employee furnishes a copy of military orders properly endorsed by appropriate military authority to show the duty was actually performed. blah, blah, blah
-- Being bypassed? ( IMHO ) not likely if MOU #7 is adhered to. Anyone??
Voglio-il mio
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National Guard units can be activated via Title 10 ordering them to serve during a conflict such as Iraq or Afghanistan. I'm not sure what is going on right now other than the riots that might warrant an activation?
Title 10 is federal active duty. State active duty (Title 32) is different, for in-state emergency call up.
Morty, I question why a recruiter has a part time job while on a tour. His chain of command would have to approve that. Plus Saturday can be a work day for military (24/7). Seems like a potential huge conflict when MGMT calls them in to work (oops sorry I'm at my full time job).
Morty, I question why a recruiter has a part time job while on a tour. His chain of command would have to approve that. Plus Saturday can be a work day for military (24/7). Seems like a potential huge conflict when MGMT calls them in to work (oops sorry I'm at my full time job).
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Voglio-il mio
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Yea I'm not sure when Donnie got involved if it was still an in-state emergency or a federal call up, He gets things so F'd up when he gets involved! I'm sure the states would rather have the Feds foot the bill.
gotstamps
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BUT... she would have to have requested to be notified when a route is posted for bidding as well as how to reach them. If the tour has more than 6 months left, it’s pointless to bid since she won’t likely be able to take possession of the route within that 6-month time frame.
She’ll be back end of June so she’s good to go!
Voglio-il mio
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Soldiers and Sailors Act may come into play here if individual wants to push the issue of not coming back to civilian service in the same position as when they were before going on active duty.
"To invoke many of the financial protections provided by the act, the servicemember must show that he or she has been materially disadvantaged by reason of military service.2 These important protections cover members of the active duty military and reserve component soldiers (such as members of the Army National Guard and Army Reserve) serving on active duty under federal authority."
www.ausa.org
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"To invoke many of the financial protections provided by the act, the servicemember must show that he or she has been materially disadvantaged by reason of military service.2 These important protections cover members of the active duty military and reserve component soldiers (such as members of the Army National Guard and Army Reserve) serving on active duty under federal authority."
The Soldiers’ and Sailors’ Civil Relief Act of 1940— Easing the Burden of Service
The Soldiers’ and Sailors’ Civil Relief Act (SSCRA) of 1940 provides certain rights and privileges for men and women entering or called to active duty in the armed forces of the United States. The purpose of the SSCRA is to postpone or suspend some of the civil obligations of military personnel...
Servicemembers Civil Relief Act - Wikipedia
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Voglio-il mio
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With a good lawyer I could see this going to court and won! Loss of position or standing for progression and advancement in their civilian job!
"To invoke many of the financial protections provided by the act, the service member must show that he or she has been materially disadvantaged by reason of military service.2 These important protections cover members of the active duty military and reserve component soldiers (such as members of the Army National Guard and Army Reserve) serving on active duty under federal authority."
"To invoke many of the financial protections provided by the act, the service member must show that he or she has been materially disadvantaged by reason of military service.2 These important protections cover members of the active duty military and reserve component soldiers (such as members of the Army National Guard and Army Reserve) serving on active duty under federal authority."
If she is in contact with other employees and they can send her the bid info Mgnt doesn't even have to know she is bidding, because it's done over ebidding. You don't have to be present for the bids like before ebidding
