Senior carrier

[Soniadeshler]

Senior carrier has an RCA but other carrier does not. Can other carrier turn in leave in september to be off in november and be approved for leave without a relief.

 

[Shafted]

Yes, first leave slip in= first approved.

 

[nickiegirl62]

Hardest thing for regular to remember, It is not your route they are not your rca; both of you work for the post office and are assigned to a route. We are short rcas and 1 always calls off Mondays and holidays so it should get interesting the day after Thanksgiving i can already hear the cries of "but their my sub echoing!

 

[formerlyknownas]

We just had the big "to do". A lot of carriers wanted off the day after Thanksgiving and didn't put leave slips in till too late.
Those that did got off the day. A few that have RCA's called the union for not getting the day off. They still don't get that first slip in gets off.

 

[BigGreenie]

I guess the Early Bird gets the Worm! FIFO...First leave slip In is First to get Off! And of course, there is the contract. If an RCA is scheduled to work on a route, he/she is no longer available for any other routes, even if it is his primary.

 

[22222]

In our office we have a made up rule. No slips b4 30 days out. It works for us. Only travel plans can be submitted and approved b4. There is no time frame in the contract as to when is an acceptable time to put them in. Some offices people put in a year b4 time

 

[gotstamps]

In our office we have a made up rule. No slips b4 30 days out. It works for us. Only travel plans can be submitted and approved b4. There is no time frame in the contract as to when is an acceptable time to put them in. Some offices people put in a year b4 time

No timeframe is correct. Denying a Carriers leave request because of “timeframe” violates the contract & should be grieved. That’s a sweetheart deal & it only takes one person to upset that “rule”.

 

[22222]

If anyone can tell me if they were the jr carrier and put in holidays a year in advanced and got them over senior carriers what happened. What was the outcome?Because I know for a fact the union wouldn't do anything when mgmt signs "resubmit at a later date"

 

[RDruckus]

If anyone can tell me if they were the jr carrier and put in holidays a year in advanced and got them over senior carriers what happened. What was the outcome?Because I know for a fact the union wouldn't do anything when mgmt signs "resubmit at a later date"

I keep a round-dated copy.

I've had grievances returned to me by past managers who said it was too early. I would clip their copy to the front of my calendar when returned to me, and keep re-submitting that copy. Never denied. (Was waiting for denial, so I could grieve.)
Each manager I did this with eventually took my leave slip, even months early.

 

[gotstamps]

If anyone can tell me if they were the jr carrier and put in holidays a year in advanced and got them over senior carriers what happened. What was the outcome?Because I know for a fact the union wouldn't do anything when mgmt signs "resubmit at a later date"

Those denials should have been grieved & sent to Step 2 if necessary.

 

[gotstamps]

I keep a round-dated copy.

I've had grievances returned to me by past managers who said it was too early. I would clip their copy to the front of my calendar when returned to me, and keep re-submitting that copy. Never denied. (Was waiting for denial, so I could grieve.)
Each manager I did this with eventually took my leave slip, even months early.

I think you mean Leave Slips returned as “too early”. There is no too early. That can be grieved as a denial. It’s either denied or approved, there’s no in between.
Grievances are 14 days & mgmt cannot change that.

 

[RDruckus]

I think you mean Leave Slips returned as “too early”. There is no too early. That can be grieved as a denial. It’s either denied or approved, there’s no in between.
Grievances are 14 days & mgmt cannot change that.

Yes, I considered them as given to management.
I don't care what bolagna they spout, no approved or denied in 3-5 days counts as an approval, and I know it. (That's why my copy is locked up in my locker.)

They finally see the light and stop messing with me over it. WWFI

 

[Soniadeshler]

I guess the Early Bird gets the Worm! FIFO...First leave slip In is First to get Off! And of course, there is the contract. If an RCA is scheduled to work on a route, he/she is no longer available for any other routes, even if it is his primary

So is it okay to turn in leave several months ahead of time? I have been the only carrier in the office for 21yrs.

In our office we have a made up rule. No slips b4 30 days out. It works for us. Only travel plans can be submitted and approved b4. There is no time frame in the contract as to when is an acceptable time to put them in. Some offices people put in a year b4 time

We were told the same thing. Me being the only rural carrier in the office for 21 yrs we have never had a problem. (My relief and I) They moved a carrier into our office 2 yrs ago who turned in leave for November and December in September.

 

[Sandygirl]

I guess the Early Bird gets the Worm! FIFO...First leave slip In is First to get Off! And of course, there is the contract. If an RCA is scheduled to work on a route, he/she is no longer available for any other routes, even if it is his primary.

This was discussed at our PO this very morning . final say the RCA belongs to the Post OFfice not the carrier....hence whomever puts in leave first gets the RCA not the REG who asks the day before holiday...….