Mailgirl79
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Ive heard rumor after rumor of there being a September count. has anyone heard any official word of this?
September Count
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blamethesub
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There's a clerk in another office who often gets to sit in on the conference calls when her PM is out of the office. She told us there was talk of a September count during one of them recently. Not getting my hopes up or holding my breath from that source.
Would love to have one though. I'd get my K route back. My under evaluated H route is getting old fast.
Would love to have one though. I'd get my K route back. My under evaluated H route is getting old fast.
Mailgirl79 -- "Ive heard rumor after rumor of there being a September count. has anyone heard any official word of this?"
-- You are the first to bring it up.
-- Article 9.C.3.a.(3): The Employer reserves the right to conduct a national count of mail for all routes during the last twelve ( 12 ) working days in September of any year. The Employer agrees to notify the Union at the national level at least thirty ( 30 ) days in advance of the commencement of the count.
-- For September 2018, the last 12 working days would be 17th ( Monday ) through the 29th ( Saturday ).
-- Notification at least 30 days in advance would make 18 August the drop dead date for notification.
-- With the national convention being held 14-17 August, there is the chance no one will be in the HQ office to take delivery of a certified letter from the USPS or to monitor the fax machine(s) for the USPS's notification.
-- With some 17,000 routes being identified as overburdened as a result of the 2018 count, questionable if the USPS would try to get some more free work hours by having a September count.
-- Might also depend on how successful Amazon is developing their own delivery systems as well as in recruiting "independent contractor" delivery drivers through out the country.
-- Most likely there will always be the "last mile" that needs to be covered by the rural carriers.
-- You are the first to bring it up.
-- Article 9.C.3.a.(3): The Employer reserves the right to conduct a national count of mail for all routes during the last twelve ( 12 ) working days in September of any year. The Employer agrees to notify the Union at the national level at least thirty ( 30 ) days in advance of the commencement of the count.
-- For September 2018, the last 12 working days would be 17th ( Monday ) through the 29th ( Saturday ).
-- Notification at least 30 days in advance would make 18 August the drop dead date for notification.
-- With the national convention being held 14-17 August, there is the chance no one will be in the HQ office to take delivery of a certified letter from the USPS or to monitor the fax machine(s) for the USPS's notification.
-- With some 17,000 routes being identified as overburdened as a result of the 2018 count, questionable if the USPS would try to get some more free work hours by having a September count.
-- Might also depend on how successful Amazon is developing their own delivery systems as well as in recruiting "independent contractor" delivery drivers through out the country.
-- Most likely there will always be the "last mile" that needs to be covered by the rural carriers.
smalltownmailman
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From what I understand, the new requirements for a route to be included in a special mail count in September is that any route that has changed in adjustment of at least 4 hours AND will change from an 'L' route to a 'non- L ' route or vise versa. I believe there are lots of routes that will be counted next month, mine included. I am excited to finally be classified as a non-L route so I can come closer to receiving the more correct pay for what I do.
justasinger
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There's an AUX route that I cover once in a while that has more mail and packages than the vast majority of my K routes... The only things keeping it from being a K route is mileage
blamethesub
Well-known member
"Lol! No way an h route has enough volume to go to a k!So dumb"
Jshark - If you are referring to my comment above, my route went from a 43K to a 43H thanks to this last mail count in Feb/Mar. If we count in September, it will bounce right back up again because it triples in volume this half of the year.
I'm not dumb, I just work for the postal service.
Jshark - If you are referring to my comment above, my route went from a 43K to a 43H thanks to this last mail count in Feb/Mar. If we count in September, it will bounce right back up again because it triples in volume this half of the year.
I'm not dumb, I just work for the postal service.
faceindawind
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45 K to 42J from spring counts impacted me once.
stillfirstclass
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66 to 88 dps letters equal 1 mile
We were told that we will be counting in September newly formed routes and any rt that has had a two hour adjustments. My question is: it says if you have a two hour change and go from an L route to a non L route . But our rts didn’t go from an L rt or non L but did go thru adjustment and we have a two hour and more change so how can they count us if both didn’t happen?
Shafted
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L is nothings no more than a designation that says you have 12 or more boxes per mile. All it means is that you get paid a different standard for curbside boxes, * 1.87 min vs 2.0 min during mail count. HJK refer to the number of days per pay period you work. The L is just a letter used to show how dense you’re routenis with boxes per mile.
If an auxiliary route is counted again in Sept and becomes an "L" route would it go up for bid?
callofthewild
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I am thinking a Count this September will be a good one.......we are getting a boat load of political mailings and Christmas catalogs start in September....with all the Amazon Parcels.....it will be a good count.
