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Sick of Sundays. You?

PostalServiceEmployeeNewman

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Sundays are ridiculous. Tired of being forced in. We are Jeff Bezos B*tch. We don't work for usps, we work for Amazon. 

Easter. Jeff Bezos is making us work Easter. What a guy.

I wish carriers would organize a Sunday walkout but we all know that will never happen. To many scared people. 
 
I sometimes feel that way when I can't get a day off but right now I'm the RCA getting the most work and I get 2 days a week. With amazon I get 3, so I will not pick up a pitchfork with you on this one<img title="Laugh" alt="Laugh" src="https://www.ruralmailtalk.ruralinfo.net/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" />
 
When I was an RCA I worked almost every Sunday because I was the only RCA in the office (only two reg routes and an aux). I worked as many as four weeks straight without a day off. I wasn't thrilled with working on Sunday but I saw it as easy money. I guess I just don't understand the angst.
 
I can agree with you both but I do not like being forced in. An incentive would be nice though like say time and a half. I'm already working a lot of times 6 days a week. Why do I want to be forced in to work that sunday? Would like to at least have an option.  
 
Ugh I know what you mean. My boss keeps scheduling me to go to the hub on Sundays along with another sub. The last 2 weeks I get there and they have nothing for me until someone doesn't show up. Since I had to wait to see who wasn't coming, I'm already a half hour behind coming out of the gate. And then I'm working an area that I don't know, so there goes another 45 minutes. And just like that my normal 2:30 finish becomes nearly 4pm.

 

And why do I keep myself on the volunteer list you ask? Because I need the damn hours.
 
<blockquote class="spPostEmbedQuote"><strong>PostalServiceEmployeeNewman said </strong>
I can agree with you both but I do not like being forced in. An incentive would be nice though like say time and a half. I'm already working a lot of times 6 days a week. Why do I want to be forced in to work that sunday? Would like to at least have an option.    </blockquote>
So if you're already working 6 days a week, is that not putting you over 40 hours & making Overtime? JS
 
USPostalemployeeNewman,( I think I'll just call you Newman from now on) You should be able to grieve the fact that you are scheduled 6 days (all week) and then are required to work on Sundays also, because you most likely are working for next to nothing or even less because of that Sunday work. 

If you're on a 46-K all week and the hours you actually work would have been under 40, therefore being paid all 46 hours, but your manager had you work Sunday for 3 hours, that would have placed you at 40 hours straight time 3 hours overtime instead of 40 hours straight time and 6 overtime. In this situation you would have worked on Sunday for 3 hours and because of that "work" lost 3 hours of overtime pay, basically working for less than free on Sunday. That is reason Sunday work can't be required when an Rca is scheduled for the entire week. Some managers get around this by "not scheduling" the RCA , but having nobody else scheduled either, and "calling them in" to work day by day ending up  being the entire week, this also is not allowed for the same reason. If the RCA doesn't want the work, they can work the "city carrier" (very slow) speed and make it not worth the managers efforts to have worked them the extra day because of all of the overtime paid out. By the way when an RCA is scheduled, as primary sub to the route, they are entitled to work up to the evaluation of their route excluding the Sunday hours they were required to work, because they weren't supposed to have worked Sunday anyway. You are basically being used to save the USPS $ first by not getting the overtime you deserve and second by not having another RCA work more or longer on Sunday because you were there working for less than free.
 
Aren't there some religions who have their sabbath on Saturdays....  <img title="Surprised" alt="Surprised" src="https://www.ruralmailtalk.ruralinfo.net/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-surprised.gif" />
 
<blockquote class="spPostEmbedQuote"><strong>Rt2mailman said </strong>
USPostalemployeeNewman,( I think I'll just call you Newman from now on) You should be able to grieve the fact that you are scheduled 6 days (all week) and then are required to work on Sundays also, because you most likely are working for next to nothing or even less because of that Sunday work. 

If you're on a 46-K all week and the hours you actually work would have been under 40, therefore being paid all 46 hours, but your manager had you work Sunday for 3 hours, that would have placed you at 40 hours straight time 3 hours overtime instead of 40 hours straight time and 6 overtime. In this situation you would have worked on Sunday for 3 hours and because of that "work" lost 3 hours of overtime pay, basically working for less than free on Sunday. That is reason Sunday work can't be required when an Rca is scheduled for the entire week. Some managers get around this by "not scheduling" the RCA , but having nobody else scheduled either, and "calling them in" to work day by day ending up  being the entire week, this also is not allowed for the same reason. If the RCA doesn't want the work, they can work the "city carrier" (very slow) speed and make it not worth the managers efforts to have worked them the extra day because of all of the overtime paid out. By the way when an RCA is scheduled, as primary sub to the route, they are entitled to work up to the evaluation of their route excluding the Sunday hours they were required to work, because they weren't supposed to have worked Sunday anyway. You are basically being used to save the USPS $ first by not getting the overtime you deserve and second by not having another RCA work more or longer on Sunday because you were there working for less than free.  </blockquote>
If I recall... if a sub stays under 40 actual work hours, they are entitled to the evaluation hours which are at straight time. Once they hit the 40-hour threshold, the "over 40" is paid as OT.
 
So as an RCA, if I'm scheduled 5 days on a K route, Thats 8.4 hours a day times 5.... 42 hours for the week...

A.) And I work 38 actual hours, do I get the 42 hours evaluation?

B.) What If I work 41 actual hours? 

C.) What if I work 45 actual hours... I'm not clear on this at all.
 
@ihatesnow you asked...

So as an RCA, if I’m scheduled 5 days on a K route, Thats 8.4 hours a day times 5…. 42 hours for the week…

A.) And I work 38 actual hours, do I get the 42 hours evaluation? <span style="color: #ff0000">Yes if you don't go over 40 hrs.</span>

B.) What If I work 41 actual hours? <span style="color: #ff0000">You get You get paid 40 reg hours and 1 OT hour</span>

C.) What if I work 45 actual hours… I’m not clear on this at all. <span style="color: #ff0000">You get 40 reg hours and 5 OT hours</span>

Here is a link that might help you. <a href="https://www.knowledgebase.ruralinfo.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/2016-07-12-at-10.01-PM.jpeg">RCA Overtime</a>
 
Yeah Sundays are crap. Easiest work I've ever done, but the policies behind it and the way it contradicts the rest of the job makes it hard to bear. Another way they use RCA's as cheap contract labor.
 
<blockquote class="spPostEmbedQuote"><strong>Rt2mailman said </strong>

If you're on a 46-K all week and the hours you actually work would have been under 40, therefore being paid all 46 hours, but your manager had you work Sunday for 3 hours, that would have placed you at 40 hours straight time 3 hours overtime instead of 40 hours straight time and 6 overtime. </blockquote>
I don't believe that's how that works. If an RCA runs a 46K in under 40 hours then they get paid 46 hours straight time. No overtime is involved. Once they go over 40 hours actually worked, they get paid overtime for those hours over 40. Hence, if an RCA wishes to maximize their paycheck they need to work the full evaluation and get paid 40 straight hours and 6 hours overtime. Admittedly, this can at times be easier said than done.
 
Joe, I believe you, and Gotstamps are right,I guess I haven't thought much about this for 32 years when I became a regular 
 
So when does the RCA "working for free" come into play? I always thought once you go over 40 evaluated, you get paid actual hours. So if you finish the routes early every day, you get screwed. Or is that just during Christmas period?
 
<blockquote class="spPostEmbedQuote"><strong>Ihatesnow said </strong>
So when does the RCA "working for free" come into play? I always thought once you go over 40 evaluated, you get paid actual hours. So if you finish the routes early every day, you get screwed. Or is that just during Christmas period?  </blockquote>
Say you're running a 48k for 6 days.

If you work the 6 day in 40.00000 or less you get paid for 57.6 hours at straight time.

If you work the 6 days in 40.00001 you get 40 hours straight time and .00001 hours at time and a half.

If you take the full evaluated time of 57.6 hours you get 40 hours straight time and 17.6 hours at time and a half.
 
<blockquote class="spPostEmbedQuote"><strong>PostalServiceEmployeeNewman said </strong>
Sundays are ridiculous. Tired of being forced in. <span style="color: #0000ff"><strong>We are Jeff Bezos B*tch.</strong></span> We don't work for usps, we work for Amazon. 

...To many scared people.   </blockquote>
Careful about introducing new job descriptions and/or titles... the USPS may be inclined to introduce new methods of discipline... it'll be called the B*tch slap...  <img title="Surprised" alt="Surprised" src="https://www.ruralmailtalk.ruralinfo.net/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-surprised.gif" />
 
<blockquote class="spPostEmbedQuote"><strong>Ihatesnow said </strong>
So when does the RCA "working for free" come into play? I always thought once you go over 40 evaluated, you get paid actual hours. So if you finish the routes early every day, you get screwed. Or is that just during Christmas period?  </blockquote>
Maybe you're thinking of Auxy Rt's... they get paid actual time during the Christmas NO OT period...  <img title="Confused" alt="Confused" src="https://www.ruralmailtalk.ruralinfo.net/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-confused.gif" />
 
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