I started as an RCA in November of 2020. I worked almost every Sunday delivering Amazon packages, starting at around 9:00 a.m., about 2 months ago they started scheduling me at 7:00 a.m. to run a UPS route. My question is on Sundays are the hours for each person worked supposed to be similar? I ended up working over 10 hours yesterday and when I got back to the station there was only one other ARC and me left out on the street. I have been sent many Sundays to help other carriers so they could get off the street at the same time as everyone else but they left me out on the street for over 10 hours? I did the two routes they gave me, almost 180 stops, but what's the deal why send people home and leave me out on the street? I mentioned it to my supervisor today and he said I should write a letter so they could look into it. So what should be in my letter?
UPS/Amazon Sundays - working hours
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Thank you, it's happened several times. Another RCA told me she came in at 9:30am yesterday, 15 minutes late, and they were splitting a route three ways. Here I am with two routes and they all go home. I have no desire to work over 10 hours while everyone else goes home.
I'm not a regular carrier and it's Sunday not a regular route .my supervisor today told me the hours on Sunday should be "equitable". It's frustrating to always help but never receive help and watch everyone else go home while they tell you you have to take two routes.
gotstamps
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Aside from not being scheduled for an over-12 hour shift on any given day, There’s no rules as to how many hours any sub should be scheduled or work on a Sunday. Sundays are hourly so you are paid the same hourly rate as all other RCAs & ARCs. If over 12 hrs does happen, the hours or minutes over 12 is Overtime.
Discuss it with mgmt. They may listen since they fear losing any competent sub.
Rt2mailman
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Debbb, who is the manager on Sunday?
If it’s another rca, they maybe setting up their friends and dumping on you. This is wrong. Ask your manager who is the “Designated supervisor” on Sunday, there should be one, and NOT ANOTHER RCA they are unable to supervise according to our contract. If your manager is unable to make the routes equal on Sunday then tell him you will file a grievance requiring a real manager to be present during carrier work hours. This should correct the problem because he won’t want to be coming in on Sunday and neither will his supervisor. The schedule will be evened out by whoever is managing by the real manager or he will have to come in.
If it’s another rca, they maybe setting up their friends and dumping on you. This is wrong. Ask your manager who is the “Designated supervisor” on Sunday, there should be one, and NOT ANOTHER RCA they are unable to supervise according to our contract. If your manager is unable to make the routes equal on Sunday then tell him you will file a grievance requiring a real manager to be present during carrier work hours. This should correct the problem because he won’t want to be coming in on Sunday and neither will his supervisor. The schedule will be evened out by whoever is managing by the real manager or he will have to come in.
I did, they told me to write something up. Hopefully they'll be grownups or else I'll be working 12 hours instead of almost 11.
Sunday management doesn't want to stay there any later than they have to, so helping others helps them get out of the office faster as well. Most offices I'm in contact with, including our own, the RCA/ARC share loads at the end of the day so they all leave close to the same time.
Laughed at that...grown ups....have really good luck with that part.
But seriously, facts, documentation, a low key and factual approach may get action.
I was laughing when I said grownups. My supervisor asked me for the letter this morning. I gave it to him, had him sign and date stamp it, made a copy for myself. Let's see what happens.
Why would the supervisor need a letter to try and correct this obvious problem? Hoping you'll forget about it probably.
Our group are all experienced, so we all take the same amount. We don't need someone to give us instructions on how to do simple division. There is some variance on who gets back earlier, but that's the same as it is on any other day at the office.
No one should be taking a much bigger slice if everyone else is leaving way earlier. That's BS. My solution would be to take one route and head home, personally. They're going to get mad at the person who did 1 route and left or the one that did 1/3 route and left? I'd say try that argument with me, go ahead.
Our group are all experienced, so we all take the same amount. We don't need someone to give us instructions on how to do simple division. There is some variance on who gets back earlier, but that's the same as it is on any other day at the office.
No one should be taking a much bigger slice if everyone else is leaving way earlier. That's BS. My solution would be to take one route and head home, personally. They're going to get mad at the person who did 1 route and left or the one that did 1/3 route and left? I'd say try that argument with me, go ahead.
I've never heard anything about a supervisor being needed on Sunday. It's a relief not having one to screw things up at least one day of the week, in truth.
Then again, I've never seen this "Sunday Volunteer List" that supposedly should exist either.
We have to draw to decide who gets what L route. Only thing seniority does is if we have 4 rcas and only 3 L routes most senior gets to decide if they want to go home. here once you are done with your route besides around Christmas time you are done. Some are done in 3-5 hrs some are 6-8hrs. It has nothing to do with the route you get all to do with the individual.
Routes are all mixed up between L1-L4. It makes no sense but district Is forcing us to do this way. Pretty sure they are routes set up by Amazon and them getting a baseline for when or if they ever do it themselves.
as to the OP I hope it gets better for you. It could have been you just got the short end of the stick that Sunday and next Sunday could be 4-5 hr day. A lot has to do with how well you know the area and routes themselves. Better you know it the faster you get done just like a normal day.
Routes are all mixed up between L1-L4. It makes no sense but district Is forcing us to do this way. Pretty sure they are routes set up by Amazon and them getting a baseline for when or if they ever do it themselves.
as to the OP I hope it gets better for you. It could have been you just got the short end of the stick that Sunday and next Sunday could be 4-5 hr day. A lot has to do with how well you know the area and routes themselves. Better you know it the faster you get done just like a normal day.
He actually asked me for the letter. We have two stations under one PM. The station Sunday is run out of is not the station I normally sub at. My supervisor doesn't take a turn working Sundays so has no idea. He said he would look into it. I saved the letter and will use it again if they play games. At least one other RCA worked 9:15-4:00 on the day I worked 7-5:45. I have no desire to work more hours while everyone else goes home.Why would the supervisor need a letter to try and correct this obvious problem? Hoping you'll forget about it probably.
Our group are all experienced, so we all take the same amount. We don't need someone to give us instructions on how to do simple division. There is some variance on who gets back earlier, but that's the same as it is on any other day at the office.
No one should be taking a much bigger slice if everyone else is leaving way earlier. That's BS. My solution would be to take one route and head home, personally. They're going to get mad at the person who did 1 route and left or the one that did 1/3 route and left? I'd say try that argument with me, go ahead.
I know it's a stupid thought, but here goes anyway. Maybe the Sunday persons in your office have their own meeting. Decide to help each other out so nobody is stuck with late time. All get to leave so they also get help when they've got the big route too. When close to done call the other guy and ask how they're doing, and split what's left.
Management may not be there, but someone has to lock up, check on scanners and vehicles, and set the alarm at the end of the day. They want to get out of there too! Maybe just do it, don't ask so you can't get a NO?
Management may not be there, but someone has to lock up, check on scanners and vehicles, and set the alarm at the end of the day. They want to get out of there too! Maybe just do it, don't ask so you can't get a NO?
Possibly because the supervisor wants to help rectify by inquiry, yet in a way to not be seen as imposing in another manager's lane. Solution: have craft craft a letter and be the messenger, not the questioner.
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Rt2mailman
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Call in next Sunday and ask what line you have. Is it the long 8-9 hour line? “I’m sorry I feel too sick to work that many hours” should be said. Once these “ Non-managers” catch on, you won’t be over worked, because that makes ALL of them have to split your line.
