What are all these 48k routes that claim to get done in 4.5-5 hours a day?

[damifiknow]

yesterday, tuesday i had maybe 20% of my mail rt. get anything at all, including mail,flats, and packages. this will destroy your rt. and its planned, monday our hcr driver could not carry the bags in they were so heavy, i had to do it for them.

 

[Descatusat]

This is my office. RCA and run every route from time to time. All of them can be done in around 5 hours, 6 on a heavier than normal day, except for 1 that is massively over 48k. Something like 53k last time I checked. That one averages around 7 hours a day. My normal route is just barely a 48k, but takes me 4.5 on light days and upward of 5.5 on heavier days. 830 boxes/31 miles. Averages I'd say around 230-240 scans. 1 hour to sort and load, 3.5-4 hours to run it. I'm absolutely a runner though. I never walk to and from houses. Winter is when everything slows down and itll start taking 6 or 7 hours for each route just due to not being able to run and needing to drive a little slower between boxes to not slide past them all in the snow.

I've had people say I'm cutting corners or that I'm ruining the route but that just isn't the case. All our routes have risen at least 4 hours each since rrecs. I don't skip scans. I just prioritize time to compensation. I've been to offices where carriers stand around talking in the morning and sit outside smoking. I never do any of that. We do have a couple of regulars that make breakfast in the mornings and just drag their feet and those are the carriers that take 8-9 hours on normal days, but the other regulars seem to have the mindset of just wanting to get done and go home so those regulars are also done in 5 hours.

It's the high mileage routes that seem to have the biggest problem with getting done quickly. There isn't much you can do as a 140 mile route to compete with a 30 mile route even if you have half as many packages. Drive time is a killer and not correctly compensated in rrecs. My other main route is just over 60 miles and even with less packages and boxes, it'll always take me around 40 minutes longer to deliver it than the 30 mile route.

 

[Sunofa]

management's goal is to get as much free labor (legally) as they can. That's their beauty of 90 hour routes that get paid at 60 hours.

How do they get so many postmasters to go along with that ? Have they no scruples? Do they not remember they were once carriers themselves? What a bunch of lowdown s!!

 

[8digger2]

I read about it all the time on Reddit, rural carriers with 48k routes who claim to only work 4.5-5 hours a day and how much they love their job.

Wondering how that is even possible unless you have non-existent parcel volume or very little mail. My 25 mile 800 mailbox 46K route that's inundated with Amazon everyday takes 4.5 hours just to deliver, not even counting casing, pulling down and loading the vehicle. Am I missing something here?

I’m a 48k 63 standard, 13 mile 660 all mounted 180-220 scans a day. On track to work less than 1200 hour for the year. Average 4-4:30 hours a day

 

[U caught my attention]

I’m a 48k 63 standard, 13 mile 660 all mounted 180-220 scans a day. On track to work less than 1200 hour for the year. Average 4-4:30 hours a day

What were your actual hours over the 52 week evaluation time period?
Are you currenrly working less than back then?

 

[ATCBigE]

Come to my office.

47K and you never know what you will get. 84 miles, 560 houses with about 370 stops.

Last 2 Mondays

3 ft presort 2 tubs flats 1700 DPS 135 packages. To point I had to pitch and ditch mail to make truck at 6

This past Monday

NO presorted, tub of flat, 1300 DPS 33 packages. Done by 215

 

[8digger2]

What were your actual hours over the 52 week evaluation time period?
Are you currenrly working less than back then?

I won the bid on The route only 9 months ago. Before I was on a different 48k at 98 standard so I can’t answer that

 

[U caught my attention]

98 standard so I can’t answer that

That had to be exhausting. A 52 must feel like a breeze. Did you ever get aux assistance on the 98 to help you get done?

Have your routes been adjusted yet? They seem extremely overburdened. I would have hoped, if I was working there, they would have been adusted in this first round.

 

[8digger2]

That had to be exhausting. A 52 must feel like a breeze. Did you ever get aux assistance on the 98 to help you get done?

Ha ha aux help not while I was on it, the poor soul that has it now worked 12 and went home the first two weeks on it and only completed about 50%. They tried to mandate regulars to help her but we all refused. Got wrote up for disobeying orders nothing happened. Told them if the want the mail done cut the routes, they refused was told the was not enough room on the floor to make that many new routes. Their fix was to just hit 6 RCAs which I guess worked

 

[U caught my attention]

Come to my office.

47K and you never know what you will get. 84 miles, 560 houses with about 370 stops.

Last 2 Mondays

3 ft presort 2 tubs flats 1700 DPS 135 packages. To point I had to pitch and ditch mail to make truck at 6

This past Monday

NO presorted, tub of flat, 1300 DPS 33 packages. Done by 215

Yes, this exact thing is happening in my office. It's utterly annoying. That's why I want current weekly evaluation. I want to know where the route currently is with all this fluctuation. Is my route still overburdened? My daily average is well over 9 hours but I am under my evaluated pay evaluation of 10.4 average. Be nice to know consistently how the route volume is creating the next evaluation. I'd like feedback on my performance in relation to current weekly evaluation.

 

[Jeeper82]

Those stinking postal mgmt....
FIRE EM ALL....MOST WORTHLESS BUNCH OF PEOPLE I EVER MET...is it ever gonna get better...

Doubtful, when we first moved there I was thinking the grass would be greener, thought I’d finally get my K day off, nope. I was 22 in seniority with 25 RCA’s and still had to work . With every RR cut in our office to 43ks 12 new rts were created. Once the bidding starts and the dust settles, we might have a full office of full-time carriers, but not enough RCA once again.. They treat RCA’s so bad working them 13 hours a day telling them to hurry up, why you taking so long. Honestly the only solution would be a five day mail delivery with RCA’s running packages on the weekend. They are making it harder to go full time now

 

[Jeeper82]

Doubtful, when we first moved there I was thinking the grass would be greener, thought I’d finally get my K day off, nope. I was 22 in seniority with 25 RCA’s and still had to work . With every RR cut in our office to 43ks 12 new rts were created. Once the bidding starts and the dust settles, we might have a full office of full-time carriers, but not enough RCA once again.. They treat RCA’s so bad working them 13 hours a day telling them to hurry up, why you taking so long. Honestly the only solution would be a five day mail delivery with RCA’s running packages on the weekend. They are making it harder to go full time now

There will never be enough RCA’s in our office for everyone

 

[Beanut]

Well before the new system my route was a 42H.

Now it is a 48k. I don't get done in 5 hours but between 6-7 is common. I work around 42-44 hours if I work 6 days or 37-38 if I work 5.

~550 deliveries over 19mi. Generally 150-200 packages daily.

My route has taken the same amount of time since I started doing it just under RRECS I get paid way more.

Before RRECS my route was a 48k no amazon
(It wasn’t my route prior to RRECS, but I was the assigned sub for 21 years)

After RRECS it’s a 43k with Amazon (for almost a full year)
65 miles 525 deliveries 150-270 packages per day

2 weeks ago we lost Amazon, I will likely end up and H within a year
I have had between 75-150 packages per day these last 2 weeks, which is what it averaged prior to RRECS.

 

[Worve]

Before RRECS my route was a 48k no amazon
(It wasn’t my route prior to RRECS, but I was the assigned sub for 21 years)

After RRECS it’s a 43k with Amazon (for almost a full year)
65 miles 525 deliveries 150-270 packages per day

2 weeks ago we lost Amazon, I will likely end up and H within a year
I have had between 75-150 packages per day these last 2 weeks, which is what it averaged prior to RRECS.

Set a minimum 20 times getting out different addresses. Make sure mapping is spot on DPM/LTM. If you question if it’s within front door mapped point, garage or other location. Got word today district is upset with my route. Looking at 47k from 42k and I have only had it a few months now.

 

[Sunofa]

Doubtful, when we first moved there I was thinking the grass would be greener, thought I’d finally get my K day off, nope. I was 22 in seniority with 25 RCA’s and still had to work . With every RR cut in our office to 43ks 12 new rts were created. Once the bidding starts and the dust settles, we might have a full office of full-time carriers, but not enough RCA once again.. They treat RCA’s so bad working them 13 hours a day telling them to hurry up, why you taking so long. Honestly the only solution would be a five day mail delivery with RCA’s running packages on the weekend. They are making it harder to go full time now

12 new routes, are they all POV routeS? So they haven't gone up for bid either. How long has it been?

 

[Old Fart]

How do they get so many postmasters to go along with that ? Have they no scruples? Do they not remember they were once carriers themselves? What a bunch of lowdown s!!

Some are just mean and want retribution for all the free time they gave, and some are outright threatened by their Districts. I've heard some of the harassment on telecons. Wow.

 

[Voglio-il mio]

How do they get so many postmasters to go along with that ? Have they no scruples? Do they not remember they were once carriers themselves? What a bunch of lowdown s!!

Most of the Postmasters in my area were either from the Plant or a Clerk, they have no clue about delivery other then what is told to them by a Superior whom is even more clueless.

 

[ATCBigE]

Come to my office.

47K and you never know what you will get. 84 miles, 560 houses with about 370 stops.

Last 2 Mondays

3 ft presort 2 tubs flats 1700 DPS 135 packages. To point I had to pitch and ditch mail to make truck at 6

This past Monday

NO presorted, tub of flat, 1300 DPS 33 packages. Done by 215

Heck yeah better today.

1 little presort bundle
15 flats
18 SPRs and parcel TOTAL

How the !@#% am I suppose to know what my route should be evaluated when packages go from 18 to 130. Just ridiculous our plant is

 

[oi veh.]

Heck yeah better today.

1 little presort bundle
15 flats
18 SPRs and parcel TOTAL

How the !@#% am I suppose to know what my route should be evaluated when packages go from 18 to 130. Just ridiculous our plant is

i think we get mail from the same plant...

 

[LEFTINGUTTER]

Yep....its coming....and its gonna be BAD.

it is already here and it is bad