tabletwoblues
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Honestly don’t wanna know how much it will be I really hope this levels it out a bit. Thats two brand new route vehicles so far.
Fat chance you'll get there! You have bean counter in your genes. My relationship with the PO is strictly financial, so same here.Oh, boy just wait till i didn't realize how bad it was
Once you start crunching the numbers, and then multiplying by the years... it soon turns in to REAL $$$ money... but many are still clueless... and those are the ones the NRLCA & USPS usually count on...Oh, boy just wait till i didn't realize how bad it was
Yeah the saving grace is I became a regular at 22. So I’ll be maxed for quite a while.Once you start crunching the numbers, and then multiplying by the years... it soon turns in to REAL $$$ money... but many are still clueless... and those are the ones the NRLCA & USPS usually count on...![]()
If you are an RCA about to go regular soon I think the contract is a 3/10. We finally get family health insurance, a small raise and after like 12 years as a regular we can get off table 2.
Also we haven't seen the official wording yet but I am sure some districts will use the language to try and force RCA's to travel to other offices. That alone is a huge negative for me.
RCAs are eligible for health insurance at reasonable rates (currently $60 per pay period) for SELF ONLY. If they wish to cover self+one or family, they are going to pay an arm and a leg for it. With the proposed contract, they would have much more affordable options (with USPS paying 65% of the premium in their first year, starting on day 1, and 75% after their first year) for self + one and family coverage options. This is much more in line with the rates city carriers pay.I don't under stand what this health insurance stuff is about. RCA's are already eligible for health insurance on day one.
I was reading somewhere that some of the NALC peeps crunched the numbers and even tho their Table 2 equalized with the Table 1 at about 12 and half years... they calculated that they still had lost almost $100K over those 12 and a half years... so that's a few cheeseburgers... not sure exactly what all they calculated, but, just sayin'... would be much worse for a rural when the Tables were NEVER coming together... especially for somebody like you that may likely have an eternity left in this $#!+ hole... not to sound negative or anything... ?Yeah the saving grace is I became a regular at 22. So I’ll be maxed for quite a while.
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So.... every year I’m another $9500 behind, just because of my hire date
But they do important $#!+ there... like sharing the recipe of the week...I always think about the teleconferences..... ok so let’s have all the PMs, supervisors and POOM have an hour long chat on the phone..... did anyone do a cost/benefit on that??? With all their salaries..... just think what the little powwow is costing per hour....
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I made a spreadsheet you can mess around with. People can check my formulas/reasoning. Nothing is locked. Careful what you change. You can use it when/if the new Table 2 is released. Second tab on bottom is City carrier's.Ok so i'll just do some math. Gonna base it all of a 48k cuz it's easier to see.. this is just to get the difference obviously no one should have a 48k
I probably messed up in there somewhere!
shall i finish it or cry myself to sleep.. 63k in my 7 years so farView attachment 380
You negative????? NEVER lolI was reading somewhere that some of the NALC peeps crunched the numbers and even tho their Table 2 equalized with the Table 1 at about 12 and half years... they calculated that they still had lost almost $100K over those 12 and a half years... so that's a few cheeseburgers... not sure exactly what all they calculated, but, just sayin'... would be much worse for a rural when the Tables were NEVER coming together... especially for somebody like you that may likely have an eternity left in this $#!+ hole... not to sound negative or anything... ?
I posted a spreadsheet above.I was reading somewhere that some of the NALC peeps crunched the numbers and even tho their Table 2 equalized with the Table 1 at about 12 and half years... they calculated that they still had lost almost $100K over those 12 and a half years... so that's a few cheeseburgers... not sure exactly what all they calculated, but, just sayin'... would be much worse for a rural when the Tables were NEVER coming together... especially for somebody like you that may likely have an eternity left in this $#!+ hole... not to sound negative or anything... ?
Well... then that bears out that the city-side peeps do lose about $100K in the 12.4 years it takes them to reach their top step and achieve parity with Table 1...I posted a spreadsheet above.
Table 1 40 K carrier makes $666,321 to get to top step ( 644 weeks)
Table 2 40 K carriers makes $583,494 through the same time frame ( Table 2 takes less time to max out. So have to add 20 weeks at top rate to reach 644 weeks.)
City Carrier Table 1 makes $731,040 to get to top step. ( 644 weeks)
City Carrier Table 2 makes $633,202 to get to top step. ( 644 weeks)
I used a 40K because the city carrier's pay is based on 40 hours. Isn't it?Well... then that bears out that the city-side peeps do lose about $100K in the 12.4 years it takes them to reach their top step and achieve parity with Table 1...
I suppose there might be other factors at play as well... things like TSP contribution amounts and matching and so forth... hard to factor in everything tho...
I think NALC Tables 1 & 2, as well as NRLCA Table 1 all take 12.4 years to hit the top step... It would seem reasonable that is the length they would set NRLCA Table 2 to as well... I mean, isn't the purpose of this drill to make NRLCA Table 2 more similar to the other pay tables??? Will be interesting to see how it shakes out...
I think it's nuts that this info already exists, but the NRLCA wants to play "we got a secret" stupid @$$ games... why not share this info with the people who pay their salaries??? Why not give the info to the peeps who's livelihoods depend on this info??? Why treat peeps like mushrooms... keeping them in the dark and feeding them $#!+...
I'm guessing the pay gap for NRLCA widens between Tables 1 & 2 for each additional hour of route evaluation... especially in light of all hours above 40 are paid at the OT rate... so if someone were on a 46 hour route for the entire period, they may lose even more than their city-side counterparts... just a guess... I haven't checked out your spreadsheet yet, so I don't know if you covered higher route evals, or just the 40 hour route example you referenced above...
But all info is good info (at least in theory)... funny that 2 Table 1 peeps are spending so much time discussing this tho....
*** Btw... in your example above, for a 40 hour route... NRLCA Table 1 isn't making much more than a NALC Table 2 peep... WTH??? ?
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Rural- Table 1 46K= $812,421 : Table 2 46k= $ 714,756
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