No RRECS rumor...

[stillfirstclass]

I have always thought that if a customer is being charged parcel rate, then piece should BE a parcel.

But that would make sense.

believe we lost a step 4 on that maybe 2002?

 

[hockey94]

Imagine the reaction to our loading times. In our area, over 15 minutes and there is some explaining to do.

We all know mgt does not want to admit it, but get over it, the more packages you have, the longer it takes to load a vehicle.

 

[blamethesub]

Imagine the reaction to our loading times. In our area, over 15 minutes and there is some explaining to do.

Thanks for bringing this up, Frozen. If there is a count in September, this subject will be high on my list for the pre-count discussion.

 

[Gotrope]

My loading time is anywhere from 45 minutes to 100 minutes everyday. Count was 12 minutes.

 

[Tooltime]

I think a mail count in September is 50/50 at this point

 

[DB.Cooper]

There's only about a month left until notification is required for the 30 advance notice..... so, wth.... let's spend that month with endless speculation.... or, just wait the month, then we'll know....

 

[blamethesub]

There's only about a month left until notification is required for the 30 advance notice..... so, wth.... let's spend that month with endless speculation.... or, just wait the month, then we'll know....

So says the person who created a poll asking us all to speculate on this subject.

 

[DB.Cooper]

So says the person who created a poll asking us all to speculate on this subject.

Glad you reminded me.... I need to go check the speculation level in that thread.... ?

 

[csparks]

I can see the new PMG getting briefed on the RRECs thing. Probably sounds like some Stanford undergrad's term paper on "algorithms in the workplace"; then he realizes this was dreamed up by the same crew that thought delivering Amazon for free was a great idea.

Wouldn't surprise me a bit if it got torpedoed. Its basically been a White Whale or pink elephant for years.

 

[22222]

WOW.... I couldn’t believe it. ? What is this world coming to! ? I actually agreed with Louie regarding time standard being fair.

You think 30 seconds per parcel is fair?

 

[stillfirstclass]

You think 30 seconds per parcel is fair?

close... when annyyy thingg over 5" rigid, or 1 9/16 inches thick or anything that cannot be bent or damaged is counted as a parcel, so the 20 seconds we get for those make up for it ( instead of the 10 seconds for a flat and loading time)... boy, sometimes you have to see something in writing to realize how stupid it sounds... i need the 10 seconds we get for delivering a parcel to move stuff and slide across the street

 

[WestCoastRural]

close... when annyyy thingg over 5" rigid, or 1 9/16 inches thick or anything that cannot be bent or damaged is counted as a parcel, so the 20 seconds we get for those make up for it ( instead of the 10 seconds for a flat and loading time)... boy, sometimes you have to see something in writing to realize how stupid it sounds... i need the 10 seconds we get for delivering a parcel to move stuff and slide across the street

They won’t implement RRECS until we get more than 10 seconds lugging that 70 lbs parcel 1/2 mile down the driveway. They know it, I know it, you are catching on.

 

[psd181]

close... when annyyy thingg over 5" rigid, or 1 9/16 inches thick or anything that cannot be bent or damaged is counted as a parcel, so the 20 seconds we get for those make up for it ( instead of the 10 seconds for a flat and loading time)... boy, sometimes you have to see something in writing to realize how stupid it sounds... i need the 10 seconds we get for delivering a parcel to move stuff and slide across the street

You know we got 20 seconds a parcel before the union agreed to the "parcel to the door" policy don't you? So don't say the extra 20 seconds for all of them is to make up for the big ones to the door. Plus there was a SET program which provided a "bonus" added to the mixture of adding the new duty and extra 10 seconds. We normally got $300 to $1000 extra in December from the SET program
Prior to 1991, we got 20 seconds for them and all we had to do was pull up to the mailbox and honk horn. You filled out the 3849 and left in box if no one came in the time it took to write it up. In those days we only had 3 or 4 a day that wouldn't fit in a mailbox.

 

[WestCoastRural]

You think 30 seconds per parcel is fair?

I don’t think that is the issue here. The issue is we are not getting paid to take the parcel to the front door. That’s roughly about 1:30 minutes extra, sidewalk to front door and back.

 

[WestCoastRural]

You filled out the 3849 and left in box if no one came in the time it took to write it up.

You said it beautifully, if they don’t show up it’s an accountable.

 

[Haychica]

We definitely do not want the rrecs standards.

I wonder though if actual mail volume will return to pre-covid levels. In my office letters are way lower than the usual summer lull and flats are way down for all routes.

Sure parcels are above average for all days of the week and can spike to hundreds more scans some days here.

Still even with the parcel increase we don’t get enough time with the current standards. So if we have a count in sept and regular mail doesn’t come back by then, including like certs and things which are way down as well, will anyone really benefit from it? I doubt this will be over by sept.

I know you want credit for the parcels I would too. I don’t think it would be in our best interest to have a national count with irregular volume and covid cases rising in 30 plus states. I would hope someone in the union higher ups wouldn’t allow to have one in these circumstances. Some routes that are close to busting and get a lot regardless would do fair but I think most routes would stay stagnant or possibly even lose time.

Until the parcel time standard is corrected to a realistic credit we will get screwed either way.

Think about the time everyone misses with signature items...we were told not to risk your health by going to the door and simply write c-19/ route#
Although during a count who knows what they will tell us

 

[Haychica]

They come in my spur tub and have a scan (I do every single one). They're not a letter.

yup....if they're a letter...they'd come in a tray with .55 postage...?sigh

 

[Haychica]

I have always thought that if a customer is being charged parcel rate, then piece should BE a parcel.

But that would make sense.

Another point our union has failed to emphasize at negotiations...imo

 

[Haychica]

There's only about a month left until notification is required for the 30 advance notice..... so, wth.... let's spend that month with endless speculation.... or, just wait the month, then we'll know....

Or maybe not...???

 

[Deer Smearer]

Think about the time everyone misses with signature items...we were told not to risk your health by going to the door and simply write c-19/ route#
Although during a count who knows what they will tell us

I think you got incorrect instructions. You still go to the door with the accountables.