Yes, under RRECS. People will enjoy the extra pay temporarily and when your route gets cut 4-5-6-7 hours, then what?Having and losing it is better than not having it and losing it, imo.....
Are you referring to losing under RRCES???? Please elaborate on how we're gonna be "losing it"????
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DB.Cooper
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For me, retire.... but your point is well taken, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if that's what's gonna happen to a lot of peeps out there...
Voglio-il mio
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There you go applying logic and common sense to NRLCA negotiations results. I have yet to see anything that they have done that has been from a proactive stance. They have a long history of being a reactionary organization. They solicit Zero input from any of us that are actually in the trenches and are out of touch with its membership!
Voglio-il mio
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Myself and two others have reoccurring annual Leaves that we all request every year in January, one is as far out as 9 months.I'm not aware of a lot of peeps requesting leave more than 60 days in advance.... I never have.... never really heard of anybody in my office doing it either.... but it may be different in other locations....
By this time next year most of us will have lost almost 20% of our buying power through inflation. Some of us, with heating oil or large gasoline costs, will be hurt even more.
Voglio-il mio
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I too also think that this is a possibility for up to a year after RRECS starting date, but not to the 4 to 7 hour extreme. My take of this is that a route with a current evaluation at or above a 45K may be targeted as overburdened with RRECS. Resulting in territory being removed from the route. Then after that territory has been removed, changes in the 52 weeks volume cause the evaluation to drop again. So that route could go from a 45K, RRECS kicks in 47K, cut territory 43K then the loss of Volume 41K!
The NRLCA should demand a freeze on the removal of territory for one full year (unless requested by the Carrier) after the implementation of RRECS.
Seriously, NRLCA won't demand anything. And route size reduction was one of their behind door selling points to implement this system in the first place.
sinister minister
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My dental and yearly physicals are typically scheduled 6 months to 1 year in advance.I'm not aware of a lot of peeps requesting leave more than 60 days in advance.... I never have.... never really heard of anybody in my office doing it either.... but it may be different in other locations....
I believe sick leave can still be requested as soon as it is known you have an appointment. In effect, sick leave will have preferential treatment.
The 5.6% is going forward from February 22. It will not apply to the entire period from may 21. I know most are going to vote for the money. It's ok. Everyone has a voice if they mail in a ballot. I just would be sad to see people thinking they will get enormous, never before seen money...and it doesn't show up. Budget accordingly. The increase will raise your high 3 marginally. Or just play DPS reviews to 48 k.
DB.Cooper
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Even the 3.9% GWI for this contract is better than the past 2 contracts gave us.... I just don't get all the fuss about this one....
DB.Cooper
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Not too many are even discussing the money. Mostly, those unhappy with the new proposal are frustrated about the increasing likelihood of less than desirable working conditions and hours. The balance is lost. I agree, the rural system used to be great. Those days are gone. But, it doesn't mean we red headed children are going to just happily accept slimmy gruel, either.Even the 3.9% GWI for this contract is better than the past 2 contracts gave us.... I just don't get all the fuss about this one....
DB.Cooper
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I sorta get that.. but not really seeing how this contract is necessarily making conditions any worse... mostly unknowns, like RRECS... I think the leave thing is being overblown... it actually improved the process with the 3 day rule, which is something I've heard peeps complain about in the past... I get that peeps have Covid fatigue, Amazon fatigue, etc.... but not sure this contract created any of that...
If approved the full 5.6% would take effect next month. The January cola is a delayed increase. The July one was payable in late August of 21. I'm not upset about receiving the full cola. It's the working duties that I'm pretty certain will further degrade our craft.When was the last time we saw a 5.6% bump in our wages????
DB.Cooper
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Which one's????
Considering the status of inflation this "new free money" isn't much of an offset. Most experts believe that we'll see similar increases through this coming year. That erodes everyone's buying power by 20% roughly.
I'm voting negative.
DB.Cooper
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I guess everybody believes some arbitrator is gonna give us some big @$$ pay raise..... yeah, maybe they'll offer up $25k exit bonuses for retirees too... let's dream big....
Knowing usps they would offer the 25k for rcas to resign before giving regs It. then I could use your favorite saying DB.I guess everybody believes some arbitrator is gonna give us some big @$$ pay raise..... yeah, maybe they'll offer up $25k exit bonuses for retirees too... let's dream big....
