How long after mini mail count do we see our new route evaluation?

[Rcflyn]

I'm not familiar with the term " academic formation," perhaps it is a foreign translation?
I know they use formation in England for some terms...mostly sporting.

Thank god, I’m not the only one “unacademically uninformed”
But hey, at least we’re here to become “academically informed”…. (Hopefully)

 

[Gotrope]

Thank god, I’m not the only one “unacademically uninformed”
But hey, at least we’re here to become “academically informed”…. (Hopefully)

We all have different schooling levels. Only need basic skills for usps. Should probably be a warning in that basic requirement.
It just sucks that the hiring requirement is very low but, the ability to earn a living with that job takes a forensic accounting degree now.

 

[Rcflyn]

That is if RRECS could figure out how to adjust routes, so far I don’t believe there is an effective method to do that. There had better be soon because routes could very well require adjustment twice a year.

Uuhhmm, that’s privy info, that rollin already knows about, that can only be discussed, amongst top secret personal, that if privy info is discussed, all hearing it will be killed after such info is divulged.”
Nobody (apparently) here, is of that level (except rollin, who knows all), so, if we do finally find out, we’ll wake up dead tomorrow morning…..
sux to be us, don’t it?

 

[RollinRural]

Of course it will be up to 6 months later that you will be paid for the work you did during peak. That is assuming you’re still on the route, haven’t quit or retired, or had your route readjusted to something that no longer resembles your route due to the excesses of peak.

Every evaluation includes the previous 12 months, so every evaluation will include a peak season. The oldest 6 months of data drops off when the new 6 months of data is averaged in.
We don’t have a crystal ball to give out evaluations.
Maybe you and rcflyn would prefer a palm-reader to determine your evaluations.

 

[Rcflyn]

We all have different schooling levels. Only need basic skills for usps. Should probably be a warning in that basic requirement.
It just sucks that the hiring requirement is very low but, the ability to earn a living with that job takes a forensic accounting degree now.

I’m just shy of a police job, by 2 or 3 credits. I’ve already got my ass (yup, I laugh at that every time) in computer science. I’ve spent 4 years in college, to do a job, that requires a high school degree (does it really require a high school degree?)….. I’ve been a professional auto mechanic for 15ish years…. I’ve been run over by a fork lift in a factory job, that I worked for 7 years (plus 5-10 years in other factory positions), but, I guess, I’m “academically challenged”…. I’ve been in the po (imagine that, police training, computer training, plus nobody training in 4 factory’s, plus being an ASE certified mechanic for years) since 2012, but yet, here I am. An ignorant nobody, that knows nothing about wrecks (as we all know nothing, but 1 individual)….. but here I am, admitting my ignorance, just to be argued “your academic level af understanding”! What ever….

 

[Rcflyn]

Every evaluation includes the previous 12 months, so every evaluation will include a peak season. The oldest 6 months of data drops off when the new 6 months of data is averaged in.
We don’t have a crystal ball to give out evaluations.
Maybe you and rcflyn would prefer a palm-reader to determine your evaluations.

I’d like that

 

[Gotrope]

Every evaluation includes the previous 12 months, so every evaluation will include a peak season. The oldest 6 months of data drops off when the new 6 months of data is averaged in.
We don’t have a crystal ball to give out evaluations.
Maybe you and rcflyn would prefer a palm-reader to determine your evaluations.

I think we all agree on the time frames involved. I believe the concern was that the carrier had was where that territory would be when the credit came due. I have seen some of the Area testing and I would have grave concerns about the territory transfers crediting the proper personnel.
I did observe some test scenarios of 48k+ routes territory moving to other routes. The 48k was not projected to be compensated for additional territory. The inheriting route received the credit for the transferred territory from the date of new evaluation. The credit will count going g forward for 6 months until new mms. So, the next evaluation would only get credit for the 6 months of actual duties of new Territory. Nrlca is looking at this data and trying to resolve some sloppy usps software coding.

 

[Rcflyn]

Every evaluation includes the previous 12 months, so every evaluation will include a peak season. The oldest 6 months of data drops off when the new 6 months of data is averaged in.
We don’t have a crystal ball to give out evaluations.
Maybe you and rcflyn would prefer a palm-reader to determine your evaluations.

But, yet, you’ve STILL given us no reason to “trust/believe? In wrecks! You’ve given us nothing to believe in, other than your now 68 standard hours, getting paid 48 hours”. You’ve shown us no reason to believe in wrecks! (Are you really Ronny stutter? Because you sure sound like his promising nothing about wrecks)……
And, your happy being paid for last years work, for pay today? You’d better not cry come cuts, that the new route is being paid for work you did the past 52 weeks! I’m for the craft, but oh my god, I can’t wait for you to finally get hammered, when cuts come. Maybe then, you’ll realize just how wrong wrecks is….. (says a gainer from wrecks).

 

[Gotrope]

I’m just shy of a police job, by 2 or 3 credits. I’ve already got my ass (yup, I laugh at that every time) in computer science. I’ve spent 4 years in college, to do a job, that requires a high school degree (does it really require a high school degree?)….. I’ve been a professional auto mechanic for 15ish years…. I’ve been run over by a fork lift in a factory job, that I worked for 7 years (plus 5-10 years in other factory positions), but, I guess, I’m “academically challenged”…. I’ve been in the po (imagine that, police training, computer training, plus nobody training in 4 factory’s, plus being an ASE certified mechanic for years) since 2012, but yet, here I am. An ignorant nobody, that knows nothing about wrecks (as we all know nothing, but 1 individual)….. but here I am, admitting my ignorance, just to be argued “your academic level af understanding”! What ever….

Good for you. I'm all for people trying to improve and keep options. Homeland is hiring 'puter peeps. So is border patrol. Could bridge your federal service years.
I hope everyone does better this round. I do think the recalculation of coverage should help more routes. Maybe you will all end up on the gravy side.

 

[Rcflyn]

We all have different schooling levels. Only need basic skills for usps. Should probably be a warning in that basic requirement.
It just sucks that the hiring requirement is very low but, the ability to earn a living with that job takes a forensic accounting degree now.

Apparently, a kindergarten degree, is all that’s required (as others have shown us)

 

[Rcflyn]

We all have different schooling levels. Only need basic skills for usps. Should probably be a warning in that basic requirement.
It just sucks that the hiring requirement is very low but, the ability to earn a living with that job takes a forensic accounting degree now.

Is that why, I’m only table 2, step 5? And not understang, WHY wrecks is so good??? (And still not getting explaination why wrecks does us so good?)….
It’s almost making sence…… table 1 knows more (does more) than table 2? Or rcas? This is almost starting to make sence,,,,, (rollin, here’s your chance. Make it make sence…. You’ve said nothing confirming yet)

 

[OldHillbilly]

Every evaluation includes the previous 12 months, so every evaluation will include a peak season. The oldest 6 months of data drops off when the new 6 months of data is averaged in.
We don’t have a crystal ball to give out evaluations.
Maybe you and rcflyn would prefer a palm-reader to determine your evaluations.

No I prefer not waiting a year to be paid for what I did, or worse what someone else has done. No crystal ball instead a hope of a year of accurately collected cryptic data.

 

[rtusa001]

Uuhhmmmmmmm, don’t do that. Look at your 4241 forms, moving things around is already factored in, by your volume. Your not loading your truck when you do that. Load truck is at the po, not out on route. You’ve already been compensated to move things around….. your not “loadtruck” in the middle of the route (unless you come back to po to pick up more)…..
but, you do you! And don’t cry when it eventually bites your behind….

Thanks .i didn't know that.

 

[Rcflyn]

Good for you. I'm all for people trying to improve and keep options. Homeland is hiring 'puter peeps. So is border patrol. Could bridge your federal service years.
I hope everyone does better this round. I do think the recalculation of coverage should help more routes. Maybe you will all end up on the gravy side.

Agree, but I’m not seeing those options in my area. May of 2023, I’m vested in po BULLCHIT, may 2023, I’m looking to get out if things don’t change….may 23, I’ll have 3 companies retirement vested. may 23, I might not be be better off, but I will be looking for more fair working environments…… my count down has begun…..

 

[Rcflyn]

Thanks .i didn't know that.

Don’t falisy info…. You’ll regret it later. Your paid already to move things….

 

[Rcflyn]

No I prefer not waiting a year to be paid for what I did, or worse what someone else has done. No crystal ball instead a hope of a year of accurately collected cryptic data.

But hey, he likes it, and thus, so should we. He knows better than us (obviously), nobody here knows anything (except him), so take it and run?

 

[RollinRural]

But, yet, you’ve STILL given us no reason to “trust/believe? In wrecks! You’ve given us nothing to believe in, other than your now 68 standard hours, getting paid 48 hours”. You’ve shown us no reason to believe in wrecks! (Are you really Ronny stutter? Because you sure sound like his promising nothing about wrecks)……
And, your happy being paid for last years work, for pay today? You’d better not cry come cuts, that the new route is being paid for work you did the past 52 weeks! I’m for the craft, but oh my god, I can’t wait for you to finally get hammered, when cuts come. Maybe then, you’ll realize just how wrong wrecks is….. (says a gainer from wrecks).

Again, I requested to be cut multiple times. I want to be cut to a 43k per contract.
I welcome the cuts! We need cuts!
Rrecs should have been implemented years ago because of how wonderful it is!!!!

It’s not at all practical to change the evaluations daily, no one can be paid like that. Too much uncertainty. That’s why we’re doing it every 6 months.
maybe you guys would like hourly better, then go city. I prefer the evaluated system.
This entire debate/conversation is worthless because we’re not going hourly and we’re not getting rid of rrecs. Deal with it.

 

[Gotrope]

Is that why, I’m only table 2, step 5?

No, the kids table sucks

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[OldHillbilly]

This entire debate/conversation is worthless because we’re not going hourly and we’re not getting rid of rrecs. Deal with it.

I am dealing with it, in less than a year I will be personally kicking RRECS to the curb. Luckily I will be getting rid of RRECS. Waited almost a decade for it, it was not worth the wait. It is a unicorn of a pay system that is even more flawed than the original evaluated system.

 

[vmlb]

who is opposed to hourly, union or management?