It is time to disband this union. They are not working for us.
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She mails rural
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Arbitration ruled HAD TO BE TRANSPARENT OF ALL INFORMATION PROVIDED TO EVERY CARRIER. Our union has obviously ignored them rules from the very start and we haven't raised enough #@// about it so they choose not to worry about it. So since rrecs hasn't been done right from the start its to late now for me to ever have trust in the system. Just put me on the clock will be the only way I trust anymore.
Tired carrier
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You have the first speed right, but my slowest speed would still smoke a city carrier.
Morty
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One thing that boils my blood. The NSS system and incompetence.
So many times I'm with the pm and an adr or Dr and they spill the beans on confidential evidence. wE hAvE tO bE tRaNsPaRenT blehhhh. How many lawyers defending someone hand over everything, especially extra stuff not asked for? Oh yeah, he did it postmaster. He even gave me video of him doing it, here you go even though you didn't ask for it or knew it existed. Or speak from half truths, then later apologize saying I was right. But my BS settlement made from false truths is binding.
There's a school of workers. I think it should be required to be an adr or Dr, that all courses must be completed and mandatory classes be taken all year if your an nss employee from board to adr.
So many times I'm with the pm and an adr or Dr and they spill the beans on confidential evidence. wE hAvE tO bE tRaNsPaRenT blehhhh. How many lawyers defending someone hand over everything, especially extra stuff not asked for? Oh yeah, he did it postmaster. He even gave me video of him doing it, here you go even though you didn't ask for it or knew it existed. Or speak from half truths, then later apologize saying I was right. But my BS settlement made from false truths is binding.
There's a school of workers. I think it should be required to be an adr or Dr, that all courses must be completed and mandatory classes be taken all year if your an nss employee from board to adr.
Beanut
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last week my route lost Amazon. I went from going over eval every week to being 9 hrs under eval. This mail survey I will likely go up. Since I finally have 1 full yr with Amazon. But my next eval will plummet.
I would love to have a guaranteed 8hrs work day, but in small offices like mine going hourly would be nearly impossible…
I have one FT route, a small 14 hr AUX and a highway contract. Unless they pull other small offices together. How would they give us a 8 hrs work day ?
Next spring (if I’m still here) I will request the Aux to be merged back into the K route (likely a J by spring). Who knows if that will be approved, and we don’t have an RCA so I’ll still be working 6 days a week. . .
Amazon comes and goes seen it in other offices. Honestly pick a random number of to different door deliveries daily. Stick to that number regardless, above is awesome never below.
U caught my attention
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You make a good point about rural offices not having enough volume for an 8 hr guarantee. I view Rrecs as a way to have us just floating along with volume. We are set up to loose relief days in order to keep us working as full time employees (unlike city that has the 8 hr guarantee) If it gets too low then routes become aux. I just want us to be made aware what the weekly evaluation is so we have a working knowledge of the time/pay we are dealing with. If I lost Amazon, my route would plummet south too. Low k, maybe a j, who knows. Wouldn't it be great to see those decreased volumes start showing up in a weekly eval so we are prepared. Even if it's 2 weeks behind, just something to help us get an idea what to expect.
We all are SUPPOSED to be able to see the CWE ( current weekly evaluation ) . From The RRECS Guide ;
After the route is initially evaluated in this
way, it becomes eligible for updates in each
subsequent pay period based on changes in
BH. In the subsequent pay periods, BH = CWE
+ AF, where CWE is the latest value available,
and AF is an adjustment factor. Tracker stores
current values of both BH and AF. CWE is an
automated calculation that is available daily.
Beanut
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What number do you feel is ideal to keep it a K ?
She mails rural
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Dang I wish now we all just refused to even touch a scanner when all this rrecs crap began. What they gonna do fire us nation wide.
They don't have the tool.
It's obvious, as they can't provide us volume numbers now for our evaluation check vs what we actually get.
Big problem. But they won't have it. Far too costly.
Your DPM gives you time, figure in average flat, raw, dps timeas well. That’s your base line, then see if any misc time applies daily, then any auth dismount. Once you have those numbers decide what you want hours wise and just average 2 min per separate parcel to door.
For me I looked at last mms for my numbers of everything. Just to make it easy on myself knowing mail volume is down but it’s not huge factor time wise. I also know with all the apartments on route each one is another auth dismount. Parcel wise to door I only need 10 a day with auth dismount to get a 46k. My number is 12 minimum, it’s closer to 25 a day easily. Even with it being slower time of the year, but it allows me to use farmer boxes come winter. Cause no one wants to be out or driving down driveways in snow and sub zero temps. Keep in mind I have 4-8 pickups a day 3-4 daily with a sheet to scan. The rest are notes in boxes. For reference I have 11 auth dismount currently, soon to be 15.
Edit: we can not control coverage factor hence the 2 min each separate parcel to door. It gives wiggle room when it comes to coverage. All about keeping a baseline and not over exaggerating any numbers.
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She mails rural
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Then we shouldn't be allowed to use an incomplete program! Our cost is more valuable! Js
I don't know about this.
I lean more toward building a checks and balances system so that the people who have the interest and motivation may keep track of what their leaders are doing.
My fear with term limits is that the staff may end up running the union. I have some fear that this may already be the case. I fear that the board has the ego but not the skills for the job.
Decisions will be based heavily on what staff said and how staff interprets what is happening. I believe this to be a very common problem.
I do not believe the board should be doing the operational jobs but instead making certain that the staff is performing as desired.
tonsillitis
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wonder how much lump of cash the higher ups in onion get?
There's no transparency with our union. We hear what they want us to hear. Never the reality. If they did we'd all see the incompetence, the lack of push back to USPS management. We'd see all the times they gave into demands and accepted some insignificant alternative that really did nothing for members.
They don't fight for what's important to us because those things are opposed to what keeps management costs down for the post office
One of the union's top priorities has, and will be, the addition of more members. Part time is fine, just MORE who pay more dues.
Many unions started grass roots as real fighters for the employees they represented, but morphed into an entity unto itself where it became servant to themselves instead of the membership. I fear this is what's happened to ours too.
They don't fight for what's important to us because those things are opposed to what keeps management costs down for the post office
One of the union's top priorities has, and will be, the addition of more members. Part time is fine, just MORE who pay more dues.
Many unions started grass roots as real fighters for the employees they represented, but morphed into an entity unto itself where it became servant to themselves instead of the membership. I fear this is what's happened to ours too.
Yeah, this next contract will be the one that "helps" those on the fences make a decision. I say "fences" because there are at least two fences. There is the fence that members are on and teetering on withdrawing their membership and then there is the fence where people are teetering on even staying with the PO.
You can blame our union for that. Contractually they make it difficult to be put in a higher level position. I’m a PTF, was injured 1/31, been home ever since. A CCA was injured at the same time, she was put in temporarily 204B position while I’m sitting home.
There was already a movement to decertify the union. Look up the facebook group “Declutter the NRLCA”. This was last I could find on talks with the Teamsters from last year….
“Here’s the conflict of interest. Moses (Raleigh NC teamster) was told we were under the AFL-CIO protection blanket that protected us from being raided by teamsters. I kept explaining that there was a difference between city and rural and the city union was AFL-CIO protected not us.
Moses said he was just relaying info and his opinion was that we weren’t being raided, that the carriers were pushing out our union and coming to teamsters for help.”
When I went through the academy as an rca, the union rep coerced everyone to join the union right then and there. But there was 1 person who wouldn't sign up. The rca wanted to wait to see if he even liked the job. That rep went sour on him immediately. The cold shoulder was like an iceberg. The rca even tried to ask a question and the union rep just ignored him.
