crazydoglady
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NRLCA Reaches Tentative Agreement with USPS for Three-Year Contract
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Shannonboy
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Arkansas area.
ours is 2.54 - 2.89, depending on which station you go to.
crazydoglady
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Dang. That's cheap.
Bucknadhand
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ours is 3.19 atm
You know what really makes me crazy? Always has - the EMA rate can be shown to be a negative impact on carrier finances and the board never pushes the issue on formula.
An average route delivers 301 days a year. Subtract the costs of vehicle registration, insurance, tires. Brakes, misc maintenance, FUEL, oil changes, etc and the cost per mile is much higher than pay rate. Not to mention the fuel economy while delivering is not great. Especially near suburban delivery. It's about 8-10 mpg for an average delivery vehicle while delivering. Not to include open mileage while driving to and from work.
In general, the average actual costs range from $1.08- $3.40 per mile depending upon fuel economy and vehicle purchase price. And the current formula, in no way, covers the true costs of route use.
stillfirstclass
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beat them to he!!,,, if the carrier working my home route is an example.... takes packages and mail stops if he feels like it and takes the rest back, reg comes in monday and moans and complains, nothing happens... when you see stuff like this all over where i am at.... you assume, correctly or incorrectly that is what all subs and some regulars do to bust evaluation.... 30 years of rurals discovering every possible cheat to shave a minute... nothing left but to not do the job....p.s.,,, nobody cares, even the customer throws it in the dumpster walking to the house
The rt I live on in the west coast was a 46 k in Sept evaluation. The carrier bid off it to move to a closer office RT. The new, brand new regular, bid on at as his first rt from RCA. I doubt he understands rrecs. If he did, he would be driving to gates and not cramming everything into box - whether it fits or not. The parcel locker here has a double lock . The master key portion was punched out by a their.- just a hole now. He still uses the parcel locker even though you can see into the space for merchandise.
I asked the old regular how the rt went this MMS. She said it dropped to a 42 j. Because he doesn't understand EOS or scanning or load times. But, he is home at 12 noon. And he's whining about the drop in evaluation
You really can't help the persistently clueless.
Voglio-il mio
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Average price here is $2.860 per gallon for regular and $3.862 per gallon for premium.
U caught my attention
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So are they shifting overburdened workload to aux, creating mega aux instead of mega route? Could this hide volume in a non formula 5:1 instead of formula 6 day?
From contract. Aux rt table *
*Auxiliary routes will be converted to regular within 30 days
of reaching 42:00 standard hours, unless otherwise withheld in
accordance with this Agreement.
Could a 5:1 non formula aux continue to gain?
42:00 hours must not be the only trigger to convert to fulltime route. What gives them the right to withhold conversion?
U caught my attention
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It's sad the tangled compensation web we weave for ourselves.
Most get a sense of pride from "destroying evaluation". I see "destroying evaluation" as us doing way more work for way less pay. We then pat ourselves on the back for it.
It's embarrassing.
It will never change.
Most get a sense of pride from "destroying evaluation". I see "destroying evaluation" as us doing way more work for way less pay. We then pat ourselves on the back for it.
It's embarrassing.
It will never change.
Maybe this from The M-38 ;
822.3 Auxiliary Rural Routes
Auxiliary routes will be established when there is insufficient work to justify a regular route.
Auxiliary routes are operated in the same manner as a regular route except auxiliary ruralcarriers are compensated for the hours actually worked. Payment for the vehicle will be based upon the current rate as provided for in the National Agreement. All new rural routes must be established first as auxiliary routes until the exact evaluation is determined by a mail count.
And this:
822.2 Regular Rural Routes
Establish additional regular routes if possible. Regular rural routes will be considered if the proposed evaluation is [ 39 ] hours or more per week. Do not establish regular route until the exact evaluation is determined by a mail count.
Now, the 39 hours has been changed to 42 hours but it appears that a count is needed to "set" the actual evaluation.
U caught my attention
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So then the unanswered question is will aux carriers understand Rrecs in order to maintain or build upon what they receive?
My question always was if the impact of the time and compensation TAKEN from a route(s) to either create or add to an aux. route(s) was immediate, then why isn't / wasn't the time and compensation RECEIVED also immediate ?
that's exactly what i expect to happen when upon retirement.The rt I live on in the west coast was a 46 k in Sept evaluation. The carrier bid off it to move to a closer office RT. The new, brand new regular, bid on at as his first rt from RCA. I doubt he understands rrecs. If he did, he would be driving to gates and not cramming everything into box - whether it fits or not. The parcel locker here has a double lock . The master key portion was punched out by a their.- just a hole now. He still uses the parcel locker even though you can see into the space for merchandise.
I asked the old regular how the rt went this MMS. She said it dropped to a 42 j. Because he doesn't understand EOS or scanning or load times. But, he is home at 12 noon. And he's whining about the drop in evaluation
You really can't help the persistently clueless.
we have one sub right now. it is a race between me and another regular as to who gets probation first. i am 45k, she is 46. sub will end up with one of our routes and we both predict that she will destroy all of our hard work exactly because of work habits outlined in your post, despite our attempts to educate her for the past however many RRECs years.
oh well, you reap what you sow.
Shannonboy
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Its unlikely my friend....too many RCA'S know little to nothing about rrec's, and that's the way po mgmt wants it....
Neciat you know why........... I can't believe you would question the GREAT USPS and their practice.
Shannonboy
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I think it was more from a RHETORICAL point of view.....kinda like WHY ARE PO MGMT MORONS, AND THE CRAP UNION WORTHLESS....
It was. But so was @ATCBigE post. I understood the context. Anyway, what this does is validate that adjustments , even before RRECS , were not accurate. That language about having to have a count on the aux. route before before that route is posted as a regular route pretty much validates it.I think it was more from a RHETORICAL point of view.....kinda like WHY ARE PO MGMT MORONS, AND THE CRAP UNION WORTHLESS....
All new rural routes must be established first as auxiliary routes until the exact evaluation is determined by a mail count.
Do not establish regular route until the exact evaluation is determined by a mail count.
So, the adjustment WAS NOT accurate ? Well, since that is the case when an aux. route is involved, what makes it any different when adjustments are done on regular routes. The territory taken or given from or to ANY route has no idea if it going on an aux. or regular route.
