RDWL....Pros and Cons

[Fast_Enuf]

Might as well get all 5 of you regulars to request a sub...120 day letter. It has to be all 5 of you. If only one does it, you'll get 1 ptf. If all 5, you'll get 2-3 ptf.

Can someone clarify the relationship between the 120-day letter and the hiring of PTFs? Seems mgmt. could satisfy the letter(s) by hiring RCAs. It also seems I've read here that 120-day letters have expired with no hiring, followed by the denial of Annual. What then? Is this when the issue of hiring PTFs comes in? Appreciate your knowledge.

 

[Rt2mailman]

Db, you have around $700 waiting for you at the end of a grievance for those weekly splits. If filed right, you should get 2 weeks, and possibly 3 weeks of 150%.

 

[Morty]

Can someone clarify the relationship between the 120-day letter and the hiring of PTFs? Seems mgmt. could satisfy the letter(s) by hiring RCAs. It also seems I've read here that 120-day letters have expired with no hiring, followed by the denial of Annual. What then? Is this when the issue of hiring PTFs comes in? Appreciate your knowledge.

It goes to the grievance process once you file on day 121. From there it's up to your DR.

In my case, an RCA was "hired". PTF position was still created.

 

[DB.Cooper]

Splits are not to be scheduled & only to be done “on occasion”, not every week. Our district is supposedly requiring splits of smaller offices & the suggestion has been said b6 mgmt in my office. Uh... try it & I’ll be filing ?

What is the problem with splitting a route??? What part of the contract is it violating??? Just curious, as I mentioned earlier, they split my route on just about every K day.... and leave days as well... ?

I've also read on here of others saying their routes are regularly split when they are off, so it's not just about me...

 

[Rt2mailman]

Scheduling a split is over working an Rca, in a continuous basis when not an emergency. If a manager has a vacant route (no rca, or working that primary somewhere else) and does not schedule a coverage for that route, they are basically scheduling a split. When this is done to avoid use of a carrier on the RDWL, it is payable @ 150% through the grievance process. If the problem is the regular on the route in question takes all of the heavy days off, (days after the holidays, Monday's etc.)and management does not fill that position on the matrix because no other rca wants it, it still is management's responcibility to provide scheduled coverage for that route. Whether it is through the RDWL, or hiring a new rca, that empty position must be covered through scheduling NOT by acting like it is an emergency every weekend and splitting coverage. The order of consideration spells this out.

 

[bluewrx2001]

When is the next sign up for RDWL?

 

[Voglio-il mio]

Oct 12th I believe!

 

[DB.Cooper]

Scheduling a split is over working an Rca, in a continuous basis when not an emergency. If a manager has a vacant route (no rca, or working that primary somewhere else) and does not schedule a coverage for that route, they are basically scheduling a split. When this is done to avoid use of a carrier on the RDWL, it is payable @ 150% through the grievance process. If the problem is the regular on the route in question takes all of the heavy days off, (days after the holidays, Monday's etc.)and management does not fill that position on the matrix because no other rca wants it, it still is management's responcibility to provide scheduled coverage for that route. Whether it is through the RDWL, or hiring a new rca, that empty position must be covered through scheduling NOT by acting like it is an emergency every weekend and splitting coverage. The order of consideration spells this out.

It's not really a sub shortage situation.... sub just can't make dispatch, so they cut an hour or 2 off and give it to another RCA... been doing it for 6 or 8 months now....

Btw, I've never not had a sub... hail, I even had a sub when I was on an Auxy Rt for 5 years... only thing I can figure is that I must just be living right, or just a really nice guy....

 

[btdtret]

bluewrx2001 et al -- "When is the next sign up for RDWL? "

-- The RDWL sign-up sheet better be up in the office on 21 September!

-- Article 8.5.A as well as from the April and September 2018 editions and also the April 2019 edition of the national magazine. ( apparently they thought it was important )

- The first opportunity to sign the Relief Day Work List will be three weeks prior to the beginning of the new Guarantee Year and will be effective at the beginning of the new Guarantee Period.

- The new Guarantee Year starts Saturday, 12 October 2019.

- 3 weeks prior makes it 21 September 2019. ( don't be afraid to ask manglement: "Where is the RDWL sign-up list?" )

- 2 weeks to sign up, giving manglement 1 week to get the list in order so it can be posted on 12 October 2019.

 

[Rt2mailman]

Splitting routes is when there is no RCA scheduled on that route at all, and other RCA's take parts of the route. Giving assistance to an RCA is not splitting routes

 

[DB.Cooper]

Oh, semantics then, I guess... I just figured when 2 or more Subs are on a route on the same day, then they were splitting it... so they're just giving assistance, not really splitting... makes sense, I guess... ?

Somebody needs to tell the peeps in my office the meaning of "splits".... as that's what they're writing in the remarks of the 4240 every week... so, who knew it's really not "splitting"...

 

[RDruckus]

Splitting routes is when there is no RCA scheduled on that route at all, and other RCA's take parts of the route. Giving assistance to an RCA is not splitting routes

Is this terminology important in the RRECS, "that data will be pulled out if route is split" scenario?

 

[DB.Cooper]

I read once where the subs are to be expected to do what the Regular would normally do, if the Regular were working.... so, pretty sure they wouldn't be "spitting" or "giving assistance" to me, if I were the one working.... so much, for expecting them to pull the same load as the Regular.... also, along those same lines... what about all of the peeps doing a route that day without any assistance, is that really fair to them, or disparate treatment??? ?

 

[DB.Cooper]

Is this terminology important in the RRECS, "that data will be pulled out if route is split" scenario?

If a route is split, I would be inclined to believe it would be beneficial to the carrier to include the time and effort: the sum of the pieces is certainly greater than the whole.

Good points.... currently my 4240 doesn't reflect the time and effort being allotted to my route on the days that I am off.... ?

Some might even say this is a 2nd or 3rd cousin to off-the-clock (OTC) work.... ?

Does anybody else wonder what impact this could have on "the bump"... just sayin' ... as "splits" become more common and RCA time ends up on Green Cards... does that make our routes look to be taking less time than they actually are??? Or is it just me... ?

 

[Mailgoddess]

Howdy All,
12 year regular (Table 1, Step 9) in need of some guidance and wisdom from those more knowledgeable than I. RI, DB, Ruckus, et al.
Down 4 Rca's in the last month, and losing a 5th to become regular once vacant (health issues) route comes up for bid. For the 1st time in my 12 years, I am being forced to work my K day on Monday for the 2nd week in a row. This week, I was given 2mro as my X; however, next week there is no day available for my X. It is RDWL time of the year. Gimme your pros and cons. This job has taken a toll on me physically to be sure, but wanting to weigh my options. I'm too far in to quit now!! Thanks in advance.....

I have been on the RDWL for many years. Overall it’s good if you need/want the extra money.
HOWEVER, keep in mind your hours add up quick if you take code 5s and you have a high volume route. I changed to a different route last year (higher volume). Amazon was off the charts for us through fall and winter and I was working 11-12 hour days. No subs, crap weather and worked every Saturday for a year. So I have been bypassed on the list since May and taken almost all my yearly leave to keep me under 2080/2240. But my body is feeling better now).
So it depends on your route, volume , and hours.

 

[Rt2mailman]

If you have been bypassed while being on the RDWL, you can file a grievance for all days that you could have worked. You do have a 14 day limit on your grievance to remain timely, unless you claim you just found out. In the order of consideration it spells out that you may be bypassed IF you WILL work over 2080/2240, it does not say if you are PROJECTED to work over. You should at least ask for pay for the last 2 relief days that you were bypassed, pay @ 150%.

 

[DB.Cooper]

In my office they always did the RDWL however they wanted.... I've seen them pay DACA 5's to peeps who weren't even on the RDWL... and then for over a year, when I was on a K Route, but working a J Route schedule, there was no rotating between carriers on the RDWL, I just worked and got paid a DACA 5 every other Saturday, while bypassing others on the RDWL.... it's like everything else in the PO.... all is good until somebody gets their nose out of joint and says something.... most of the time nobody says anything, and so anything goes....

Maybe some places forward the RDWL to somebody at District, but as far as know, ours just stayed locally.... so anybody could just wing it however they wanted.... it's like the wild west... ?

 

[Mailgoddess]

If you have been bypassed while being on the RDWL, you can file a grievance for all days that you could have worked. You do have a 14 day limit on your grievance to remain timely, unless you claim you just found out. In the order of consideration it spells out that you may be bypassed IF you WILL work over 2080/2240, it does not say if you are PROJECTED to work over. You should at least ask for pay for the last 2 relief days that you were bypassed, pay @ 150%.

I did fax a grievance form and a grievance statement to the area steward ( we did not have a steward in our office at the time). Never heard back. But it was pretty clear that I WOULD go over, not just projected. Have used almost all my annual for the year and it’s still gonna be close?
Last fall/ winter was UGLY!!!!

 

[Mailgoddess]

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