"... We've always done it this way."
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stillfirstclass
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just asking, but are you insinuating what i think you are? my neighbor hit my dog swerving into the ditch.. i have hit a couple dogs, too many squirells, deer, rabbits, coon, possum, turkey, bald eagle, mink and muskrat.. that i remember.....
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Windindaface
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From the Machine..... The Next Generation Mailboxes | USPS Should or will this be a mandate for any new curbside delivery point on our routes, or when a customer is replacing an existing box?
I have hit a few critters in LLV. No family pets. Hit a wild turkey once with LLV it was like hitting a bowling ball. Dented and smashed out headlight holder area. Also have had a flock of small birds take off only to pepper my windshield and front end. Deer spook me the most in LLV. The sleek aero dynamics of the LLV lead me to believe the deer will end up somewhere in my seating area. Locked the brakes up on a dead head last week to avoid deer. Left skid marks. The rear end of LLV was squirrely but maintained control.
I have hit a few critters in LLV. No family pets. Hit a wild turkey once with LLV it was like hitting a bowling ball. Dented and smashed out headlight holder area. Also have had a flock of small birds take off only to pepper my windshield and front end. Deer spook me the most in LLV. The sleek aero dynamics of the LLV lead me to believe the deer will end up somewhere in my seating area. Locked the brakes up on a dead head last week to avoid deer. Left skid marks. The rear end of LLV was squirrely but maintained control.
Diana_of_Themyscira
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Diana_of_Themyscira
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follow-up questions / issues :
When issuing PS form 4056, how many days should we give the customers to fix the "faults" about their mailboxes?
Do the forms need to be signed by the PM? Mine look so busy all the time, I feel as though he won't have time signing them.
I had one of the supervisors sign the forms before but with the volume I am currently having, I just took it upon myself and issue the forms as I go.
Majority of the customers respond promptly but there will always be a few stubborn ones.
Could I just hold the mails after the deadline? ( I give 2 notices.) Or am I violating rules here?
Don't I, as the carrier and the customer's direct contact, have an authority to have the rules implemented?
Thanks, thanks, thanks.
When issuing PS form 4056, how many days should we give the customers to fix the "faults" about their mailboxes?
Do the forms need to be signed by the PM? Mine look so busy all the time, I feel as though he won't have time signing them.
I had one of the supervisors sign the forms before but with the volume I am currently having, I just took it upon myself and issue the forms as I go.
Majority of the customers respond promptly but there will always be a few stubborn ones.
Could I just hold the mails after the deadline? ( I give 2 notices.) Or am I violating rules here?
Don't I, as the carrier and the customer's direct contact, have an authority to have the rules implemented?
Thanks, thanks, thanks.
Diana_of_Themyscira
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I did more research and this is what I found -
USPS-STD-7B February 8, 2001 Supersedes Rev A Dated December 17, 1992
3.2.3 Locked Designs – Mailbox designs which provide security for customer’s incoming mail will be classified as Locked mailboxes (see Figures 2 & 3). Although the shape and design is less restrictive, Locked mailboxes must meet the same applicable functional requirements. Designs having a slot for incoming mail must be at least 1.75 inches high by 10 inches wide. If a slot has a protective flap it must operate inward to ensure mail can be inserted in horizontal manner without requiring any additional effort of carriers (see Figure 3). The slot must be positioned on the front side of the mailbox facing the street. In addition, the slot must be clearly visible and directly accessible by mail carriers. Any designs, which allow for out-going mail, must meet all applicable requirements of this standard.
USPS-STD-7B February 8, 2001 Supersedes Rev A Dated December 17, 1992
3.2.3 Locked Designs – Mailbox designs which provide security for customer’s incoming mail will be classified as Locked mailboxes (see Figures 2 & 3). Although the shape and design is less restrictive, Locked mailboxes must meet the same applicable functional requirements. Designs having a slot for incoming mail must be at least 1.75 inches high by 10 inches wide. If a slot has a protective flap it must operate inward to ensure mail can be inserted in horizontal manner without requiring any additional effort of carriers (see Figure 3). The slot must be positioned on the front side of the mailbox facing the street. In addition, the slot must be clearly visible and directly accessible by mail carriers. Any designs, which allow for out-going mail, must meet all applicable requirements of this standard.
Diana_of_Themyscira
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I surmise the 1.5 inches wide and 7 inches long dimensions is for door slots, and thus for door delivery service, NOT curbside mailboxes.
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Yes, whats the point of having a rural box with a slot in it that you can not get a phone book, uline or cabelos catalog thru? And their driveway is a half a mile of pot holes? What's the point of having a garage that's only big enough to hold a VW Bug when you have a FORD EXcursion that needs to go in the garage?? That's right, let the rural carrier deal with it! The rural carrier will bring all the mail to our door anyway! Hee, Hee. Ha,Ha! Rural Carriers never stop footing the responsibility bill for every incompetent un-responsible SOB out there! The buck stops here in my pocket!
Deer Smearer
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Now STD-7C is the new standard. The USPS did a study (not joking) to see if a larger mailbox could hold more mail. In their amazement, it could. So they decided to add an approved design to their list.
ALL of the previous designs are still PMG approved and can still be manufactured, sold, purchased, and installed.
Do some more research.
Now STD-7C is the new standard. The USPS did a study (not joking) to see if a larger mailbox could hold more mail. In their amazement, it could. So they decided to add an approved design to their list.
ALL of the previous designs are still PMG approved and can still be manufactured, sold, purchased, and installed.
Deer Smearer
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Leave it to the PO to drop the ball even when starting an effort to get larger boxes out there. The one pictured is an improvement, for sure, but if you're going to bat, swing for the fence. Put up the picture of the REAL extra large box. You know what I mean, the Big Boy. I love those suckers.
Lot of things that fit into those giant boxes that still wouldn't go in that one in the photo. Maybe they think people will feel it is unsightly.
Lot of things that fit into those giant boxes that still wouldn't go in that one in the photo. Maybe they think people will feel it is unsightly.
I do not quite understand your insinuation. To clarify; I have not tried to hit anything but as I stated before; in defensive driving classes and training as an emergency vehicle operator you are instructed not to swerve or slam on your brakes to avoid hitting an animal in the road as those actions can lead to you having a rollover or being rear ended.
I have also hit a goose, a pheasant, squirrels, gophers, skunks, rabbits, coons, a duck while riding a motorcycle, and dozens of cliff/barn swallows. I have had cats come and eat the birds in my grill.
So what are we suppose to do with all the mail that's over 1.75 inches thick and more than 10 inches wide???
gerl2
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Why would they care we take packages to the door for free? Yet still another example our Associate Union does nothing.
Deer Smearer
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Then it's a parcel. Follow parcel guidelines.
