Make sure you get 8127 time for any time spent to switch to standard rural casing equipment.
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Grievance re: case and label changes
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offx1degree
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Thanks to all for your input. There was no discussion on moving us from a 4 shelf per to a 6 shelve, just removing the "wings." Was told by union rep yesterday that a class action grievance is not forth-coming because this is route dependent.
Deer Smearer
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More than 1 carrier...
IS CLASS ACTION
Tell them to contact the NLRB if they need a definition of class action or failure to represent.
Time to step up or get fined. How sad our union has become under this NSS. DR's afraid to take a chance by pursuing carriers rights because they are afraid to go back to their routes. ?
For your interest:
Yesterday our offices were notified that all city routes would go to ONE case, with the change being made this week. Rural routes were exempt, according to the POOM, due to contract.
Office nearby with 120 city routes, 40 rural routes, was done last week. City was changed to one case. Rural exempted.
The one case set will have three addresses per cell. As many shelves as necessary for each route. Most now have three cases, four to six shelves.
Postmaster probed POOM for motive. None given. Case closed.
Yesterday our offices were notified that all city routes would go to ONE case, with the change being made this week. Rural routes were exempt, according to the POOM, due to contract.
Office nearby with 120 city routes, 40 rural routes, was done last week. City was changed to one case. Rural exempted.
The one case set will have three addresses per cell. As many shelves as necessary for each route. Most now have three cases, four to six shelves.
Postmaster probed POOM for motive. None given. Case closed.
Actually, I agree, I also think that the PO doesn't want to manufacture equipment so they're using existing for growth areas, reducing existing cases to free up that equipment. In my post, the POOM wouldn't comment or give a reason. Doesn't mean we can't give an educated guess as to why!!
Voglio-il mio
Well-known member
You mean a sign of many DOU's coming up down the road!
muttleycrue
Well-known member
an RMPO with 1 rural route, no city. being forced to 1 inch slots, must reduce a 3-case, 2-wing setup to just 3 cases. no wings.
definitely not a real estate issue.
it's a power play. efficiency be damned, power must be flaunted.
UPDATE: District Rural Coordinator into our office today to mandate 2 case sets. I immediately contacted union to grieve. Union replied they can absolutely NOT do that as the PO603 and the Rural Operating SOP which management has written commitment to both indicate 3 case minimum with additional wings for more boxes OR more than 1" per box for those customers needing more space because they receive more mail. Management may make case changes, but STILL within the 3 case minimum, for aux routes, new regulars assigned to a route, or post office closing and relocation. Spoke to POOM who agreed with our grieve, and said this was coming from top of national, but since we have contractual basis this should be arbitrated in our favor -- but, he indicated, it may take time as it likely has to go up the chain, perhaps to national. Scheduled further discussion with state union president this evening. Will keep this group posted.
RaggedyAmy
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So, OF's poom agrees with us and ox1d's union rep sides with management! At least we now know where we stand.
Does may take time mean that the cases are unchanged until settlement or not?
UPDATE: Hope y'all file grievances because my state union pres indicated that IF this can't be resolved through District or Region, they WILL file a CLASS ACTION grievance for three case standard. However, speaking with Labor, there's a warning -- if anyone just let this happen, without following up with grievances, that non action could be called a "precedent" and make it admissible everywhere. Please grieve!! We can have wings removed, but we CANNOT have less than THREE cases for rural routes. (Aux routes excepted)
The very question I asked everyone involved. Grievance will be filed Friday if no action and reply from District or Region. City cases are scheduled to be removed on Saturday in this office, so guess I'll find out Monday morning. I couldn't get a commit from union that cases must remain in place while grievance process matures. They didn't say yes, didn't say no. (I have no problem being DIRECT...)
Mutual agreement for Class Action letters dated Jan 2003 and Dec 2005, still in effect, indicate that NO route casing may be less than 3 cases unless a route becomes vacant, the route changes regular carriers, it's an Aux route, or by MUTUAL agreement.
EVERYTHING in PO management is DATA driven. They don't give two shits whether anyone has ever carried, their numbers are all they need. (Those of us who actually DO the work know what a pile of horse manure the numbers are, and that they often don't reflect anywhere near the real life situation)
Our District Rural Coordinator is a data dork. Never carried, never cased, never worked in an office. She's REALLY good with computer reports, graphs, new programs, etc. Just no idea how removing a case can impact on a carrier's daily work.
Maybe she'd like to do all her computer work on a smart phone.
Give managers desks one-third the size of what they're using now.
Remove 2/3 or the sinks, urinals and toilets from the executive wash rooms.
My understanding is we can be moved to 5 shelves as long as we have 1 inch minimum per delivery and three cases. Union indicated to me that for customers who get more than 1" of mail periodically we should expand our space to 3-4-6" as needed for that mail, thereby expanding the casing equipment we need. Union says the space per customer is based upon volume and is the at the carrier's sole discretion. (I haven't had time to probe and confirm that part yet, that we control the size per customer) We are guaranteed THREE cases.
