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How long after mini mail count do we see our new route evaluation?

There will always be under time for fast and efficient carriers.
One example is taking 11 minutes to refuel vs 2 min. I timed it, it takes me just over 2 min.
Having said that, 4 hours of work will not be a K route no matter how fast or slow you are.
 
3 more years of this crap.

Ditto. Not sure I’m going to make it though. Especially with PSHB in retirement now requiring Medicare Part B if don’t retire by Dec 31, 2024. Imo, that is a compelling reason to exit within the next 15 months.

if i knew then what i know now, i'd be wearing a brown suit.

I applied and interviewed with the “brown” company just before taking test to become RCA. Start as loader, do your time, then become driver. But I had never driven stick shift. Didn’t know that’s what their trucks were. Was willing to learn, but they never called me back. In hindsight, I guess I should have been more persistent. Instead, USPS wanted me right away, so I traded hope of driving the brown truck for the LLV.
 
It basically comes down to whether or not you trust the rrecs system. You obviously don’t, but you refuse to state how many parcels you get on average per day. We have others on this board who have admitted they only work 4 hours per day. It really shouldn’t surprise you that rrecs cut your hours. You need to face reality. You’re not doing 9.6 hours of work to be a 48k.
I’m doing 300 parcels per day.
I just feel that 66% of our craft losing pay during 40-year record high inflation is just wrong.... also, I believe we deliver more mail, for less $$$$ money than city-side already.... and for that we get pay cuts... you can love that all you want.... I sorta think it sucks.... 🤔 🤷‍♂️(n):poop::oops:
 
It basically comes down to whether or not you trust the rrecs system. You obviously don’t, but you refuse to state how many parcels you get on average per day. We have others on this board who have admitted they only work 4 hours per day. It really shouldn’t surprise you that rrecs cut your hours. You need to face reality. You’re not doing 9.6 hours of work to be a 48k.
I’m doing 300 parcels per day.
There are many variations of route types across the country. Some take 4 hours to drive with 18 miles and no mail. Others take 4 hours to drive with no mail and 118 miles. The standards tried to split the baby and it doesn't quite work for most routes. I have seen the national data. Some routes did ok because they had good gps reception, others missed data and coverage factor due to system failures... not carrier issues.
Do I think carriers did a good job recording what they could? Hard to say, the data never gave more than a 50% data participation before implementation. The rate is up but., Nowhere near where the union thinks it should be. Suspicion is the data is dropping somewhere. That is why we ask carriers to confirm under eos the parcel numbers and carrier pickup numbers. Those are items we can pull and refute to see what is happening. Also, why they ask you to review LTM twice a month with AI or district doing odd things .
 
The time standards can’t be changed. Why are you saying these things? Everything you said is misinformation. It no longer works that way now that we have rrecs. This is the beauty of rrecs. The genius if you will.
Undertime can no longer be used against us to negotiate time standards, the standards are fixed. All they can try to do is rush you when loading and at end of shift, period.
The time standards are indeed changed but in devious ways. For instance, changing the definition of what counts as an unscanned parcel (or even what a parcel is) changes an evaluation. What is allowed during load time or EOS changes the standard. RRECS has been poorly conceived, haphazardly implemented and extremely subjective. Even if you try to put lipstick on a pig it’s still a pig.
 
There will always be under time for fast and efficient carriers.
One example is taking 11 minutes to refuel vs 2 min. I timed it, it takes me just over 2 min.
Having said that, 4 hours of work will not be a K route no matter how fast or slow you are.
There is also under time for carriers who cut corners, work off the clock, report bogus breaks, perform duties haphazardly, provide poor customer service and make false scans.
 
The time standards can’t be changed. Why are you saying these things? Everything you said is misinformation. It no longer works that way now that we have rrecs. This is the beauty of rrecs. The genius if you will.
Undertime can no longer be used against us to negotiate time standards, the standards are fixed. All they can try to do is rush you when loading and at end of shift, period.
I see that you have been corrected. RRECS is certainly ingenious, the USPS built the perfect beast and by their very nature intends to leverage irrefutable data to affect time standards during Arbitration or even in-stride if the feckless union doesn't resist. Won't happen overnight, but it will.
 
One carrier in my office said he was told we were supposed to know evaluations this Saturday, Sept 16. BUT now he said they changed it and it won’t be until Sept 30. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Anyone get any info today? Or projections from management?
Our District Representative said September 30th at our Fall Union meeting recently
 
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Do you not understand how the system is supposed to work? Theoretically, one should be under evaluation on light days. One should be at evaluation on average days. One should be over evaluation on heavy days. At the end of the year, that's all supposed to average out at equal to the evaluation for the year.

In addition, this is an incentive pay system. One really should, once knowledgeable about the route, be under evaluation for the year at least a little bit. That's the incentive for learning the route well and being efficient.

Of course, we all know the system doesn't really work this way for a lot of routes and nobody really cares as long as they're getting what they believe to be fair compensation for the work they do.

Along those lines, there's a lot of routes, mine included, who are under evaluation almost every single day. Do I believe that's fair? No, it isn't. Am I giving the extra money back? Once again, no. :ROFLMAO: It's not MY fault the system is paying me for more hours than I work. On the other hand, I didn't complain about getting cut two hours last mini-count, either. I'll probably take another cut this mini-count, especially since I've been off work with COVID the last week. Will that be fair? 🤷‍♂️ No one knows.

I do know the system doesn't really work, neither the old one nor this one, and why should just go hourly and be done with it. But that creates it's own pile of problems.
one of the problems with evaluation is that we get nagged by the PMs about being over our hours on heavy weeks. They don’t care when we are under on light periods and don’t seem to understand what the system is supposed to be
 
Isn't this amazing? How is it the engineers didn't realize that routes need to be adjusted from time to time? And how is it the union and USPS manglement haven't been working on just this issue the last couple of years?
We are forgotten about. It's all about the city carriers in our office . There are 8 rurals and 30 city . We have a supervisor assigned to us but she has to take care of the city carriers . Ridiculous!!! They are like a bunch of children over there !!! Everyday they get safety/ service talks .Sometimes for a half an hour !!! Then they need help 🙄 on their routes !!!
 
Routes will be squared up per contract.
Nobody is entitled to anything other than being cut down to a 43k per contract.
Some of you haven’t been here long enough to see routes be “squared up”
Nothing has changed in that regard. You may lose some territory and gain other territory, deal with it.
Each mailbox has a value associated with it and it’s light years better than how routes were adjusted in the past. But some people will always try to invent something to complain about.
How is it light years better? Are you aware of some route being adjusted under RRECS? I can’t even seem to get new boxes on my route added since RRECS . So I think your proclamations on RRECS are a bit premature.

I have been through squaring up frenzies in the past and it generally was not favorable to most carriers. Some routes are indeed entitled to greater than 43K based on formula establishment rules. Also I believe if you aren’t an overburdened route during readjustment or square ups you are entitled to your current evaluation. Furthermore, that 43K is just a benchmark if management wants to go below it they can. They only have to claim it is more beneficial to the PO to go lower.
 
They should have made a separate terminal for carriers to do RRECS stuff.... in small offices, we map when the PM says they have some sorta update we need to do.... once again , they're throwing the onus on carriers and not giving us the tools needed..... js.... RRECS sucks @$$..... 🤔 🤷‍♂️(n):poop::oops:
once a month at minimum, db.

and if they won't, well.

you know.

smile and file.

smile.
and.
file.
 
They should have made a separate terminal for carriers to do RRECS stuff.... in small offices, we map when the PM says they have some sorta update we need to do.... once again , they're throwing the onus on carriers and not giving us the tools needed..... js.... RRECS sucks @$$..... 🤔 🤷‍♂️(n):poop::oops:
Unfortunately, the onus is on the carrier to verify their data as best they can. If they throw road blocks in your way - file and ask for remedy. USPS knows most carriers are too lazy to put up a fight and USPS will gain from that fault. More carriers need to start getting militant on them like nalc is. At least inform your DR of your difficulty if you are not inclined to file on them not accommodating computer time.
The biggest concern to nrlca right now is - for all carriers to verify dates their mapping was accessed. You can only do that by opening the program. If it has been accessed since you last participated - you have a problem. Someone has been doing things without carrier knowledge.
If you do it on EOS, you could add an average of 30 minutes a week to evaluation over the year. While in a ( hopefully) air-conditioned office.
It really is imperative to check every 2 weeks now. They are sneaky B's.
 
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