Is it totally mgm’s prerogative to require excuse for sick leave?

[Montana406]

I haven’t taken an unscheduled absence in years is it totally mgmt’s prerogative to require an excuse before returning to work even for short absences?

I think the contract or elm isn’t clearcut on this for absences not over 3 days. But for absences greater than that it is clear, you need an excuse before returning.

 

[tonsillitis]

ive called in for two days. and it always ask for doctors note. i just shrug it off. then ask me to sign something and i just tell them im not signing. and they just leave me alone for the time being.

 

[really]

same in my office. sometimes people sign but never hear anything more. Look if you had some bad food and need to be near a bathroom going out for 4-5 hours and don't you have a bathroom. Not going to the doctor for this..... common sense people

 

[tonsillitis]

same in my office. sometimes people sign but never hear anything more. Look if you had some bad food and need to be near a bathroom going out for 4-5 hours and don't you have a bathroom. Not going to the doctor for this..... common sense people

thats why they got hired. no common sense is one of the criteria.

 

[shoe72]

My office, no exceptions, call in, need a note. It's an insane idea. I have to get FMLA or get a video visit same day and pay a co-pay just to use the time I have collected over the years.
PLEASE union, fight to change this crazy premise. Take this power away from PM's and let us use it as we, the actual earners and the sick people, see fit. Let the PO keep track of abusers and punish them then but let the occasional user actually use it. Life happens.
Saying i have to see a doctor for every. single. sick day is truly crazy.

 

[Rt2mailman]

My office, no exceptions, call in, need a note. It's an insane idea. I have to get FMLA or get a video visit same day and pay a co-pay just to use the time I have collected over the years.
PLEASE union, fight to change this crazy premise. Take this power away from PM's and let us use it as we, the actual earners and the sick people, see fit. Let the PO keep track of abusers and punish them then but let the occasional user actually use it. Life happens.
Saying i have to see a doctor for every. single. sick day is truly crazy.

The union can only fight these abuses after you step up and initiate a grievance. Requiring a Dr. note for each call out is not contractual, in other words, the union has already won that contractual language.
If carriers continue to allow managers to make up their own rules without fighting back (with grievances) there is no hope for our craft.
I hear so often that a carrier doesn't want to stir up "Trouble" by filing a grievance or even asking for contractual language that supports a manager's new rule, yet that manager didn't mind disallowing the use of your sick leave benefit "as you wish" without requiring more hoops/duties for you to do to "Earn" your benefit.
Here's how you fight back in a grievance question.
Can my manager(name) require me to obtain a Dr. note, without additional compensation, after I request to use fewer than 3 sick days?
A second grievance is: Can my manager unjustly require me to get a Dr. note after one day of absence without paying me for the additional Dr. visit/co-pay to obtain that Dr. note?
After either or both of these grievances your manager WILL see the light and follow our contract only requiring notes for 3 or more sick days in a row of sick leave use.

 

[tonsillitis]

The union can only fight these abuses after you step up and initiate a grievance. Requiring a Dr. note for each call out is not contractual, in other words, the union has already won that contractual language.
If carriers continue to allow managers to make up their own rules without fighting back (with grievances) there is no hope for our craft.
I hear so often that a carrier doesn't want to stir up "Trouble" by filing a grievance or even asking for contractual language that supports a manager's new rule, yet that manager didn't mind disallowing the use of you sick leave benefit "as you wish" without requiring more hoops/duties for you to do to "Earn" your benefit.
Here's how you fight back in a grievance question.
Can my manager(name) require me to obtain a Dr. note, without additional compensation, after I request to use fewer than 3 sick days?
A second grievance is: Can my manager unjustly require me to get a Dr. note after one day of absence without paying me for the additional Dr. visit/co-pat to obtain that Dr. note?
After either or both of these grievances your manager WILL see the light and follow our contract only requiring notes for 3 or more sick days in a row of sick leave use.

ive seen a bunch in my office. they just complain the whole time but not filing grievance. like really? no wonder they got abused.