It is time to disband this union. They are not working for us.

[LEFTINGUTTER]

I once told the pm when he was trying to rush me. I have two speeds,if you don’t like this one I know you won’t like the other one.

i JUST TELL THEM MY OTHER GEAR IS MUCH SLOWER AND THEN SHOW THEM FOR THE REST OF THE DAY.

 

[LEFTINGUTTER]

STOP RUNNING.

it's not worth it to your body nor your vehicle. i stopped caring what the PO thought a long time ago. i have a pace and stick to it. as someone on here used to say: some days i get the bear, some days the bear gets me.

I stopped rushing when RRECS started my only prioritie now is the sanctity of the mail and the customers belief in it. That means not racing down the road and stopping to interact with them constantly showing them that each piece of their mail is important and traceable. That if I make a mistake I will find it. Actually that is what we are supposed to be doing. I also tell all of management INTHE GROVE alot not sure they even know what it means.

 

[damifiknow]

slowing down is of no help with your evaluation, its all based on ####s , now if you stop at every box, and walk all packages into the homes thats different. having a slow gear just does not matter, its all based on smokescreens, and mirrors, that you cant see.

 

[U caught my attention]

Slowing down means hands at 10 and 2 on the steering wheel between stops. It means focusing on ONLY DRIVING in between boxes. It means pulling away from the box with a wait time appropriate to be sure the blindspot is clear. It means stopping at a servicable box and fingering each piece of mail while sitting at the box to verify which letters, flats and mailbox parcels from your workable trays go into the box. Slowing down means placing the mail neatly in the box for the customer AND only putting the small packages inside the box that are easily able to be removed. Slowing down means bringing items of oversize to the house or business. It means taking the time to make more than one trip with awkward and heavy boxes. (Or take the time to use a hand cart) It means taking pride in your work and how your customer will receive your work performance after you leave it behind for them to observe and deal with. Slowing down means thinking about which rrecs scans to perform at the right place and time so proper volumes and work activities are credited to the volume of the route.

Street time is where we are likely to have an injury or fatal accident. Slow down and do the job properly so you go home and get to live another day. Management shouldn't instruct us to speed up on the route, our lives are at risk there.
How we perform during street time is 100% our choice. Stop running.

Just an fyi....over the 52 weeks of past evaluations, my actual work hours, in that same time frame, were less than the standard hours of the evaluation I was awarded.

 

[damifiknow]

u caught my attention ur correct and i do all of those things, but still adds no time to evaluation, its smokescreens and fake numbers period. eos and load time are we need to slow down. by the way my rcas were trained and have been told but they cram jam the box with packages, and have my old rca mindset i want to go home.

 

[U caught my attention]

Yes, they do say our speed doesn't change our evaluation.

Yes, I also can not get subs to stop cramming parcels and throwing everything to back of box. I eventually have to pull mail forward because my customers never bend down and reach to the back of the box. By day 3 of them not getting the mail, I pull it forward.

I do find myself stopping at boxes that end up not having mail for the day. I stop and then look at the mail. Sometimes I make a mental note of which box is next and ultimately skip through to the box that has mail, sometimes I don't. Somedays I am more airhead than others. At any rate, it might be helping my route coverage a teeny tiny bit.

 

[ATCBigE]

slowing down is of no help with your evaluation, its all based on ####s , now if you stop at every box, and walk all packages into the homes thats different. having a slow gear just does not matter, its all based on smokescreens, and mirrors, that you cant see.

As I posted in other threads,

What's harder to find?????

Ray Lewis's suit or RRECS numbers

Meaning how many flats letters packages and etc I delivered in the year, but yet we were promised this and never gotten.

 

[U caught my attention]

Sometimes I make a mental note of which box is next and ultimately skip through to the box that has mail, sometimes I don't.

Here's something that ran through my mind. Take it or leave it.

I just wonder, if we were hourly, would we bother to skip passed boxes with no mail.
I am 100% certain the answer is No.....there would be zero incentive to do so.

Is the culture of our craft ultimately unsafe?
Is this speed issue encouraged by management in a passive way? They are not enforcing policy; therefore, ultimately allowing and rewarding speed by looking the other way?

Some carriers have a lot of undertime. Is this undertime a way for them to curb our future wages at the expense of carrier safety?

 

[RDruckus]

Post in thread 'Leaving union help'
https://www.ruralmailtalk.com/threads/leaving-union-help.4971/post-59645

This is probably the most detailed information you’ll find.
I’ve read it repeatedly but still worry I’ll do it wrong

If it makes you feel better, it might be worth it to send them the papers 3 times during the window.

 

[RDruckus]

Here's a scarey thought.
Would we be better off if we had our negotiators double down on throwing out the whole evaluated system and insist on hourly. (Due to no transparency of actual volumes handled vs captured in rrecs, unfair route dynamics that rrecs can not capture properly, 52 weeks of past volume determining the assigned carriers current pay, lack of training of each hand that touches the route on how to properly collect volume factors that result in the future salary of the route, lack of interim adjustments, lack of current weekly evaluation)

I bet this would likely go to arbitration.

I wonder what hourly through arbitration would look like for our craft.

At least there are other jobs to compare rural jobs to.

 

[U caught my attention]

At least there are other jobs to compare rural jobs to.

I wonder how our compensation compares.
Maybe the two tier could disappear. What would the end result be in order to merge that gap.

 

[Beanut]

If it makes you feel better, it might be worth it to send them the papers 3 times during the window.

I will do that.

But where I’m confused is whether I send all 3 copies of the form in the same envelope. Or if the 3 forms need to be sent to 3 different places.

 

[RDruckus]

I will do that.

But where I’m confused is whether I send all 3 copies of the form in the same envelope. Or if the 3 forms need to be sent to 3 different places.

Sorry for this misunderstanding.

I meant whatever you were going to send them, instead of sending that once, you send the identical thing to them three times in the window of dates that will satisfy their strict requirement.

Hitting that window of dates seems to be the mail bitting part!

 

[RegularPostman]

last week my route lost Amazon. I went from going over eval every week to being 9 hrs under eval. This mail survey I will likely go up. Since I finally have 1 full yr with Amazon. But my next eval will plummet.

I would love to have a guaranteed 8hrs work day, but in small offices like mine going hourly would be nearly impossible…
I have one FT route, a small 14 hr AUX and a highway contract. Unless they pull other small offices together. How would they give us a 8 hrs work day ?

Next spring (if I’m still here) I will request the Aux to be merged back into the K route (likely a J by spring). Who knows if that will be approved, and we don’t have an RCA so I’ll still be working 6 days a week. . .

After a year of Amazon my route went up 40 minutes. Sure, it took an extra 40 minutes a day just to sort the extra crap, but it went up by 40 minutes a week. I resigned.

 

[RegularPostman]

Here's a scarey thought.
Would we be better off if we had our negotiators double down on throwing out the whole evaluated system and insist on hourly. (Due to no transparency of actual volumes handled vs captured in rrecs, unfair route dynamics that rrecs can not capture properly, 52 weeks of past volume determining the assigned carriers current pay, lack of training of each hand that touches the route on how to properly collect volume factors that result in the future salary of the route, lack of interim adjustments, lack of current weekly evaluation)

I bet this would likely go to arbitration.

I wonder what hourly through arbitration would look like for our craft.

Dude, I found that the system said we got 0-50 pieces of letter mail every day for 9 months. There were two solid weeks where we were all credited with 0 pieces of letter mail every day. We didn't have DPS. Election season was brutal - one day I spent 6 hours sorting election mail. Clerks measured it all.

I attached the spreadsheet showing the discrepancy and full analytic report. ADR drops the dispute - apparently she thought 12 feet of mail is apparently 50 mail pieces.