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[damifiknow]

the coverage factor is now part of the usps plan to bring us down , its been ongoing for a year or so now i was at 90 down to 77 , you have to fight back.

 

[She mails rural]

I don't blame my employer as much as I do the union. They are going to do anything they are allowed to do to us and get away with it, that's where the union comes in to stop the abuse of the said employee. We are at the mercy of our employer already so why do we need the union is my question? Put them all back on routes and that would help in claims of can't hire nobody wants to work excuse. I don't know why we as a whole craft just don't stop participating in anything rrecs, still do our great works like we do but stop using that scanner all together for anything! Leave them all in the cradles! Our union can't help us maybe we need to help ourselves. All I know is something must change!

 

[PostalBlue]

Either someone fudged the numbers or something changed with the calculations and they didnt say anything because it’s looking like most carriers are seeing the biggest drops since the first mail count. Every route in my office that got numbers dropped 2-3 hours in evaluation, and this is after we just went through christmas mail volume and UPS packages came back. The numbers from the mini mail survey were pretty close to the last count so we all assumed we would stay the same, at most lose or gain an hour, so to see 3 hour drops has been a shock to everyone, even the managers at our station are saying something must be up. Someone make it make sense

Same at our office. Managers said last week that our package volume is up 16% from last year but most routes lost hours. It’s a money grab and with rrecs you can’t really win a grievance. They gonna take your handwritten numbers over what “the system” says?

 

[EthelAnne]

Lost and hour and a half, still a 41J when I started as an H. Not sure how I lost so much time when the office package volume seems substantially higher than when I started a year and a half ago.

In my office parcel volume is deceptive. We have Amazon and deliver a lot of large parcels and you can have multiple hampers full and still come out with only 150 scans for the day. We have a route with a new development that started getting two or three hampers full of parcels each day. Out of curiosity, another carrier--certain that the route must be getting 200-300 parcels a day--started checking his scans against the other route. Turned out, they were very similar. The other route just got a lot of bigger packages that made it seem like they were getting so much more.

 

[duhhuh2003]

Lost a little over an hour but it was expected since this makes a full year mostly without UPS surepost. We normally get a ton of UPS and it really made a difference last summer and at Christmas with it gone. Since we have UPS back I'm hoping to gain some back next fall and be back to where I was before by spring count next year. Unless we lose amazon...then who knows. I wish supervisor's and postmaster's pay went down with the average carrier's loss every 6 months. Seems fair to me.

 

[ATCBigE]

For the first time since RRECS, all 4 carriers lost big time. Usually up 1 to 2 hours on one then down 1-2 hours on the next. I lost 4 hours after losing 2 last time and now at 43 J from 43K. My route has been a K route for over 20 years. The other 3 carriers each lost 5 hours but they are still K's. SMH. The longer I'm here the less I make. What irritates me the most is things like coverage factor, lost signals, WHS for most all the route, etc,. that we know are not being accounted for right and we can't do anything about it.

Here is my issue with RRECS.

Think about this way. You would think after the 1st count that any big losses would be gone unless you lose Amazon or something major happens.

But all of sudden boom now people are losing 3-5 hours a time. Something is wrong with this.

 

[Dominator]

Maybe we should just ditch RRECS for a The Price is Right-style annual evaluation wheel.

 

[ATCBigE]

the coverage factor is now part of the usps plan to bring us down , its been ongoing for a year or so now i was at 90 down to 77 , you have to fight back.

The issue is how do you fight back against something you can't even figure out how they come to? You can't. As in my case, I AM LITERALLY DOING EVERYTHING I CAN to hang on to a K but USPS & my $HOTTY PLANT are going against it I mean dumping everything at one time.

Speaking of plant, has anyone see my farm papers, I'm missing I believe the last 4 or 5 weeks maybe more , if you have seen them please contact me. I did just deliver Feb 9 paper on the 26 of March. That's pretty close right?????

Cut my pay and I have to deal with the angry customer about getting papers 6 weeks late?

 

[YOUAREthecurrentresident]

Here is my issue with RRECS.

Think about this way. You would think after the 1st count that any big losses would be gone unless you lose Amazon or something major happens.

But all of sudden boom now people are losing 3-5 hours a time. Something is wrong with this.

How much surepost did you get before they stopped dropping off at our docks? Idk about everyone else, but by not having surepost my parcel volume cratered. Now that it’s back, I’m averaging 15-20 dismounts MORE per DAY. That’s about 40 mins per DAY, 3 hours per week of time credits that I lost for the entire year of 2025. I’m thinking a lot of carriers didn’t realize how much UPS they got on their routes…I bet a lot of their routes will be right back up next spring mms.

 

[Gotrope]

In my office parcel volume is deceptive. We have Amazon and deliver a lot of large parcels and you can have multiple hampers full and still come out with only 150 scans for the day. We have a route with a new development that started getting two or three hampers full of parcels each day. Out of curiosity, another carrier--certain that the route must be getting 200-300 parcels a day--started checking his scans against the other route. Turned out, they were very similar. The other route just got a lot of bigger packages that made it seem like they were getting so much more.

It's not just parcel volume. DPS is down across the board. Since DPS is the primary driver of coverage factor - it makes sense the numbers are down. Also, less wss coverages now. And cbu delivery was sort of screwed from the beginning unless a carrier input a coverage per day. The mapping self adjusting addresses and cbu compartments is and has been a mega issue from day one. Every district and above union steward knew this. They simply couldn't convince the board of the inherent mathematical favors build into the system to help USPS gain leverage on volume and coverage.
What your route was 20 years ago has no bearing on current volume or activity.
I'm sad to hear of the losses by many but, carriers really do need to think more about their actions and how to capture every second they can.

The only way to recoup wage for rurals is to go to hourly. It could be an option to elect per year, as a new regular can or something else. As long as the union pushes the evaluated system, the long-term prognosis of the craft is loss. And even more morale issues.
The nrlca must support rrecs for a study amount of time before it can present a case of failure of system. It's been long enough to consider a failure.

 

[ATCBigE]

How much surepost did you get before they stopped dropping off at our docks? Idk about everyone else, but by not having surepost my parcel volume cratered. Now that it’s back, I’m averaging 15-20 dismounts MORE per DAY. That’s about 40 mins per DAY, 3 hours per week of time credits that I lost for the entire year of 2025. I’m thinking a lot of carriers didn’t realize how much UPS they got on their routes…I bet a lot of their routes will be right back up next spring mms.

Actually package number is literally the same. It would be up 1 unless they round then it is exactly the same for everything.

Once again I lost in THE BULL COVERAGE FACTOR

3% on CURB
4% on CBUs

I lost almost 25 mins a week because of this make up

THANKS NRLCA!!!!!!!!

Since 1st RRECS COUNT, ALONE ON COVERAGE FACTOR TIME WISE

459 boxes at 93% was 86.6 mins daily
93 CBUs at 93% was 9.32 mins daily
1 other is .18 mins daily

580 mins a week on servicing boxes

LAST COUNT

465 boxes at 77% is 72.2 mins daily
94 CBUs at 68% is 6.9 mins daily
1 other is .12 mins daily

433.2 41.4 .72

475 mins a week on servicing boxes


ALMOST 2 HOURS LOST ON COVERAGE ALONE!!!!!!!! HEY NRLCA FIX IT!

 

[EthelAnne]

It's not just parcel volume.

My comment was just to offer an explanation as to how it can feel you’re getting so many packages now when you’re really getting about the same (or even less), but way more big packages. And we get paid the same to take a medium size box to the door as we do a huge one.

 

[Duckyslide]

It's not just parcel volume. DPS is down across the board. Since DPS is the primary driver of coverage factor - it makes sense the numbers are down. Also, less wss coverages now. And cbu delivery was sort of screwed from the beginning unless a carrier input a coverage per day. The mapping self adjusting addresses and cbu compartments is and has been a mega issue from day one. Every district and above union steward knew this. They simply couldn't convince the board of the inherent mathematical favors build into the system to help USPS gain leverage on volume and coverage.
What your route was 20 years ago has no bearing on current volume or activity.
I'm sad to hear of the losses by many but, carriers really do need to think more about their actions and how to capture every second they can.

The only way to recoup wage for rurals is to go to hourly. It could be an option to elect per year, as a new regular can or something else. As long as the union pushes the evaluated system, the long-term prognosis of the craft is loss. And even more morale issues.
The nrlca must support rrecs for a study amount of time before it can present a case of failure of system. It's been long enough to consider a failure.

I’ve been saying hourly is only way, but I am minority. Most say if we go hourly there is no point, they like going home early.

 

[ATCBigE]

I’ve been saying hourly is only way, but I am minority. Most say if we go hourly there is no point, they like going home early.

I don't want hourly for 1 reason. MY PLANT. IT IS BAD. Either everything or absolutely nothing which is usually 4-5 days a week. I don't want hourly for that reason.

 

[Pittsburghmike]

Either someone fudged the numbers or something changed with the calculations and they didnt say anything because it’s looking like most carriers are seeing the biggest drops since the first mail count. Every route in my office that got numbers dropped 2-3 hours in evaluation, and this is after we just went through christmas mail volume and UPS packages came back. The numbers from the mini mail survey were pretty close to the last count so we all assumed we would stay the same, at most lose or gain an hour, so to see 3 hour drops has been a shock to everyone, even the managers at our station are saying something must be up. Someone make it make sense

Either someone fudged the numbers or something changed with the calculations and they didnt say anything because it’s looking like most carriers are seeing the biggest drops since the first mail count. Every route in my office that got numbers dropped 2-3 hours in evaluation, and this is after we just went through christmas mail volume and UPS packages came back. The numbers from the mini mail survey were pretty close to the last count so we all assumed we would stay the same, at most lose or gain an hour, so to see 3 hour drops has been a shock to everyone, even the managers at our station are saying something must be up. Someone make it make sense

Every route lost 1-3 hours. This whole thing is beyond a fair labor act. Every 6 months we drop. Coverage factor of dps is a joke, what about the raw letters going to boxes that had no dps. Bundled flats getting counted “at the plant” is a joke. Our table 2 regulars with less than 10 years are getting crushed and feel so helpless. It’s just beyond anything we could have imagined. I guess the PO is not broke anymore from all the hours lost

 

[Wilco183]

My comment was just to offer an explanation as to how it can feel you’re getting so many packages now when you’re really getting about the same (or even less), but way more big packages. And we get paid the same to take a medium size box to the door as we do a huge one.

You make a good point, especially if that was your stand alone impression of daily package throughput. For me, my "feel", later bounced off the scanner end of day, occurred during load out. Hamper appearance in the A.M. was a coarse reading accompanied by the thought of how many were other route's and how many of mine were misthrown.

During the heavier Amazon days, many of the big ones belonged to an adjacent route. Oh what a feeling!

 

[Aux01]

I posted this in another thread hope it's ok but have you noticed how much letters n flats come from your sorting facility. Or how broken up a full coverage mailer is spread out over multiple days . So your not getting the credits for those coverages.

 

[Beffannie]

Every route lost 1-3 hours. This whole thing is beyond a fair labor act. Every 6 months we drop. Coverage factor of dps is a joke, what about the raw letters going to boxes that had no dps. Bundled flats getting counted “at the plant” is a joke. Our table 2 regulars with less than 10 years are getting crushed and feel so helpless. It’s just beyond anything we could have imagined. I guess the PO is not broke anymore from all the hours lost

I am one of those newer regulars. I have fought for over 3 years now just trying to stay a K route. My route is now a 43J. 22 minutes under a 40K. Lost over 2 hours in 6 months.

I'm done fighting. 42 years old and fighting for 2 days off a week is ridiculous. I'm tired of fighting. I'm just gonna take their 43 money for now and look for a new job NOT at the Post Office.

 

[Rogtar]

I’ve been saying hourly is only way, but I am minority. Most say if we go hourly there is no point, they like going home early.

If we go hourly, is there even any point to being a separate craft? At least NALC has penalty, OT, double-time rates and so on.

 

[Denial22]

Gained another hour. Back to 48k again.

Gained another hour. Back to 48k again.

I wish I at leas

Every route lost 1-3 hours. This whole thing is beyond a fair labor act. Every 6 months we drop. Coverage factor of dps is a joke, what about the raw letters going to boxes that had no dps. Bundled flats getting counted “at the plant” is a joke. Our table 2 regulars with less than 10 years are getting crushed and feel so helpless. It’s just beyond anything we could have imagined. I guess the PO is not broke anymore from all the hours lost

Oh they’re definitely saving money now! Funny how every headline has been how we won’t have money next year and then we all drop 3 hours. Here’s the kicker, out of all the routes in my office is, 1 route did go “up”…a route that has consistently went down every count, hasn’t had much growth, and the MMS was done so terribly wrong that it should have dropped again, but it went “up”. And I say “up” in “” because it went from a 45J, to a 40K….. so he just lost 10 hours per pay period and the post office is taking a ton of money back, so did he really go up or was it better financially for the post office to push him to a 40k? Hmm just a thought, but it’s fishy