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New RCA (possibly)

Boricuanessa -- Despite my somewhat negative outlook on the RCA position, if your situation allows, like "blamethesub" suggested, give the post office a try. If it is not what you expected, liked, or can deal with, be like so many others and walk ( run ) away.

-- Honestly, you are about 2 decades ( or more ) too late. The RCA and regular rural carrier positions used to be "IT" as far as postal jobs went. Management was too busy micromanaging city carriers to bother the rural side of the house. And as the rural side seemed to deliver more mail than the city side ( may get some debate from city carriers on that ), but management pretty much let rural carriers do their thing without supervision. One could argue many members of management were city carriers or clerks who still don't know how the rural side works nor take the time to learn - hence the large number of grievances, but I digress!

-- Some carriers have posted of the PM or supervisor being out for days, yet the delivery of mail continued uninterrupted.

-- IMHO, the rural craft's slide down the slippery slope began when the USPS began relying upon automation. ( again, up for debate )

-- You are experiencing some of the new changes in postal procedures:

- a new type of testing ( apparently you passed as some have posted if one fails, one would have to wait a year to retest )
- no interview at the office you will be working at ( used to be RCA's were hired off a list, with the PM interviewing and than getting to choose from the top 3 on the list. Even that has changed as "blamethesub" has posted. )
- one thing that has not changed is the cost to the USPS of bringing someone off the streets and making them a rural carrier. $10,000 has been tossed out there recently as the cost. Does not seem to affect / phase the USPS of the number of personnel ( city side too ) who get through training and after a few days on the job just walk away )

-- So much will depend on the post office you get.

- the type of postmaster and or supervisor can make ( understanding ) or break ( unreasonable ) a post office and its personnel.
- easy to get overlooked in a large office where one might end up being a small cog in a large machine. On the plus side, advancement may be faster.
- smaller post offices seem to be better as most everyone contributes to the job of getting the mail delivered, even to the point of crossing crafts ( which is a no-no, but still done ) Unfortunately, there is usually a l-o-n-g wait to make regular.

-- The bottom line is that it will be YOUR choice to take on an RCA position. But to do so, give it a REAL chance -- as in several months, if you can stand it -- before deciding it is not for you.

-- Please keep us in the loop if you take the job at the post office and your opinion of how things are going. Your information could be helpful to someone else trying to make the big decision on working for the USPS.

-- Best of fortunes which ever path you take.


Thank you very much. I called today to the office I should be at and asked if I had to use my POV and was told no. So with that I am much closer to giving this a shot. I appreciate all of the harsh realities of the job that I have gotten from everyone. Better to know now then to find out once I am in there and be stunned with it all.

My last concern is this much thorough background check that I submitted after the fingerprinting. Does anyone know if bad credit can effect you getting a job with USPS? I'm not worried about criminal, just the credit portion.
 
That is great you do not have to provide a vehicle.

IMO, the most important aspect of this job is to learn how to organize yourself and try to get a system down. You will learn different techniques of the job from various other RCA's and Full time regular carriers.

I do not know anything about credit portion of the background check.

Good Luck !!
 
Thank you very much. I called today to the office I should be at and asked if I had to use my POV and was told no. So with that I am much closer to giving this a shot. I appreciate all of the harsh realities of the job that I have gotten from everyone. Better to know now then to find out once I am in there and be stunned with it all.

My last concern is this much thorough background check that I submitted after the fingerprinting. Does anyone know if bad credit can effect you getting a job with USPS? I'm not worried about criminal, just the credit portion.
No, it won't and isn't checked since we are classified as non-sensitive governmental position.
 
With no interview to ask questions, you did the smart thing by researching this gig... (y)

There are a lot of drawbacks to this job nowadays.... best to know about those upfront and go in with your eyes wide open....

If you're tossing a gig that is currently paying your bills, I'd think long and hard about thinking the PO will be your salvation... pretty sure the odds are against that... many more walk away from it than stick it out for the long haul...

But, when all is said and done, it's your decision... best of luck to you!!! :)
 
With no interview to ask questions, you did the smart thing by researching this gig... (y)

There are a lot of drawbacks to this job nowadays.... best to know about those upfront and go in with your eyes wide open....

If you're tossing a gig that is currently paying your bills, I'd think long and hard about thinking the PO will be your salvation... pretty sure the odds are against that... many more walk away from it than stick it out for the long haul...

But, when all is said and done, it's your decision... best of luck to you!!! :)


Thank you!
 
Boricuanessa -- "I called today to the office I should be at and asked if I had to use my POV and was told no."

-- For management statements such as that, you will learn it is best to ( politely ) ask for it in writing.

-- As previously posted, when management's lips are moving - beware of what is coming out.

-- Possibly for future reference, if the route's LLV is unavailable / not working, management can ask you to provide a vehicle ( aka a POV - Privately Owned Vehicle ) to deliver the mail.

-- In that case, mention Step 4 ( L-101 ) which says in part:

In the event a postal-provided vehicle is not available for a route to which it one is assigned, a rural carrier may be requested, BUT NOT REQUIRED, to provide a vehicle. If a carrier provides a vehicle for any portion of the route, normal daily equipment maintenance allowance ( EMA ) is payable.

-- If early on as an RCA, you start citing Step 4's and articles from the contract, management just may keep their distance.

-- While we are addressing POV's, what type of vehicle do you currently have? No doubt others here can determine if it would work as a delivery vehicle.
 
There are sales jobs within the USPS, but they rarely hire outside their workforce.

My Uncle has worked in logistics for Hewlit Packard and Dell and Whitney Bowes. His job was to cut waste(six sigma blackbelt) and saved 100s of millions of $ for those outfits. But he'd have to start as a CCA/clerk if he wanted to work his way up despite his resume.

Clerk or CCA is your better path, but all luck based, right place right time.

I would personally stick with sales. Yeah, you're burnt out. But you're not stuck. Find a place that excites you and treats you well. The richest people I know are in sales.
Everyone keeps saying abandon RCA and go to CCA, PSE, in all fairness those jobs will not exist without RCA's and the Rural Craft.....
 
It really depends on the size of office and the Rural Carrier turnover, it could turn into a really good job or a dud. You can transfer to a bigger office with more turnover if this office doesn't work out. In this part of the country, the RCA's work an average of 10 years before becoming Regular. In my home office the Rca's have worked 19 years, 17 years and 14 years(past rca's) with no benefits or time towards retirement. So buyer beware.
 
Boricuanessa -- "I called today to the office I should be at and asked if I had to use my POV and was told no."

-- For management statements such as that, you will learn it is best to ( politely ) ask for it in writing.

-- As previously posted, when management's lips are moving - beware of what is coming out.

-- Possibly for future reference, if the route's LLV is unavailable / not working, management can ask you to provide a vehicle ( aka a POV - Privately Owned Vehicle ) to deliver the mail.

-- In that case, mention Step 4 ( L-101 ) which says in part:

In the event a postal-provided vehicle is not available for a route to which it one is assigned, a rural carrier may be requested, BUT NOT REQUIRED, to provide a vehicle. If a carrier provides a vehicle for any portion of the route, normal daily equipment maintenance allowance ( EMA ) is payable.

-- If early on as an RCA, you start citing Step 4's and articles from the contract, management just may keep their distance.

-- While we are addressing POV's, what type of vehicle do you currently have? No doubt others here can determine if it would work as a delivery vehicle.

I have a 2018 jeep compass and thank you for the info
 
I have wondered what the percentage numbers are... how many newly hired RCAs stick it out to make Regular.... I gotta believe that's a pretty small number.... :unsure:
just from what i've observed from working here since the early 90"s, in the office i'm in, it's got to be in the 5-10% range. sad at best...and it used to be a pretty good job. at this time, i would never refer anyone i like, to apply.
 
I’ve never heard of a 5 day transition into amother craft. My understanding is you have to apply to other crafts through USPS.com, get another offer, quit your job as RCA and then begin the new craft.
It’s true. If you take another craft position (RCA, CCA, PSE) in the Post Office, you must resign from one & be off for 5 days prior to starting the new one. If I recall, the other crafts have this for PSEs & CCAs. They have to take 5 days off at the end of 1 year before beginning the next year in that position.
 
gotstmaps et al -- " If I recall, the other crafts have this for PSEs & CCAs. They have to take 5 days off at the end of 1 year before beginning the next year in that position. "

-- That is correct:

- CCA employees shall be hired for terms of 360 calendar days and will have a break in service of 5 days between appointments.

- PSE's will be hired for a term not to exceed 360 calendar days and will have a break in service of at least 5 days, if reappointed.

- Same for the Mail Handler side of the house.
 
Up until recently, you would apply and take the test online. Then you would have an interview with someone at the post office (usually the postmaster) where you were going to be hired. The PM would recommend a candidate for hire. Now, it is all done online. The top test score of all applicants gets the job. You don't meet anyone face-to-face in your office until after academy. The interview process weeded out a bunch of people early in the process once they saw what was expected. This new system looks like yet another way for the USPS to throw money down the toilet.

Through the old interview process, Postmasters would say no to hiring if they didn’t like the person, the way they looked, or if they thought their personalities might clash. I do know of an office less than 10 miles away from mine that has difficulty hiring subs due to the PMs interviews. Our office doesn’t have an issue with hiring, just can’t hire enough & about 75% stick around.
 
Gotstamps, that's kind of a double-edged sword. If the PM doesn't like someone, he/she can fire the new sub during probation anyway. It ends up being a question of which is better - turning them away before we spend money on them or after?

This new way hires people without them having any clue what they're getting into before going to academy. Both systems have their faults, and neither system will fix a jerk postmaster on a power trip. I just think the new way will waste even more money that we don't have.
 
Gotstamps, that's kind of a double-edged sword. If the PM doesn't like someone, he/she can fire the new sub during probation anyway. It ends up being a question of which is better - turning them away before we spend money on them or after?

This new way hires people without them having any clue what they're getting into before going to academy. Both systems have their faults, and neither system will fix a jerk postmaster on a power trip. I just think the new way will waste even more money that we don't have.
Not to worry, the route remeasuring will shave enough off of every rural route to more than make up for the wasted money...coming your way soon if it hasn't already.
 
For someone who only has a Ford Mustang with a 5 speed manual transmission, being told, oh yeah, and you need to deliver mail from your own vehicle for this gig... well, this might be a problem... just sayin'... and stuff like this can be cleared up at an interview.... but when there is no interview, makes things a bit tricky.... :whistle:
 
Just lost one. Put in their paperwork to go. Idle chit chat today revealed they are tired of being forced to cover other offices after 3 months. Also a surprise statement from them,... I figure this short term gig will look good on my Resume because I worked for the USPS and have a proven clean background check by them for my next gig.
 
Not to worry, the route remeasuring will shave enough off of every rural route to more than make up for the wasted money...coming your way soon if it hasn't already.
PO thought we were gonna loose 3 miles or more so we had them measure only lost 1 1/2 , Still a LOSS though, how can they do this when action began because of scanner knowledge when RRECS is not even play yet? Has anyone else started having their Flats counted now ?
 
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