Haychica
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We have been getting them raw for over a year
Notification of mail count.
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stillfirstclass
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in our mail count guide here, they count as a dps not raw, and we are to deliver, not bring back, because it takes well over a hundred for a minutes pay.... so they don't think we would cheat, even though they do....
gerl2
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What a lot of carriers do miss is if you have to change your scanner in and out of zip codes. 1 minute each time. Your loading and markups are the golden tickets. Don't forget anytime you write something on a letter that is also counted as a markup. Naturally, our PM till this day will not let us correct names for forwards. States that the forward folk will not accept this not sure if this is correct or not. If anyone knows please speak up.
I know that any time I try it gets kicked back to me with the dreaded "you are a stupid carrier" yellow sticker.
Those are worth something, though.
Deer Smearer
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Riffing time is actual time. None of this 20 seconds a tray crap for DPS.
When riffling look for the upside down letters. Those are the ones to check the addresses on. Not all of them just enough to piss off manglement.
Deer Smearer
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It's 15 seconds a markup bundle.
Make a list of the various markups.
If something could be marked up different ways make sure you take the option that gives you another bundle. Get as many types as possible.
Frozen Toes et al -- "Go to a mail count class at least once in your career. The class can be tedious. "
-- How true!
-- But having your pay go down because of some "gem" of information that was passed along at a count meeting that you didn't know about becuase you did not attend - is worse than tedious.
-- And as I discovered, you can provide all the useful info in the world, but if the carrier doesn't use it...
-- Case in point, after on particularly bad count, each week I gave each carrier in the office a print out of something related to count. After the next count, one of the carriers complain the route went down - again. Looking over the paper work - noted there were no entries in Column 14 - 3821's. The carrier didn't want to be bothered filling one out! That was about the easiest 2 minutes available at that time.
-- RRECS lists it as "Actual - Included in End of Shift Time Average".
-- Anyone know what is included in "End of Shift Time Average"?
-- How true!
-- But having your pay go down because of some "gem" of information that was passed along at a count meeting that you didn't know about becuase you did not attend - is worse than tedious.
-- And as I discovered, you can provide all the useful info in the world, but if the carrier doesn't use it...
-- Case in point, after on particularly bad count, each week I gave each carrier in the office a print out of something related to count. After the next count, one of the carriers complain the route went down - again. Looking over the paper work - noted there were no entries in Column 14 - 3821's. The carrier didn't want to be bothered filling one out! That was about the easiest 2 minutes available at that time.
-- RRECS lists it as "Actual - Included in End of Shift Time Average".
-- Anyone know what is included in "End of Shift Time Average"?
Do you have a reference for this? Our PM said no credit and thus we do not change our scanner zip code since our last mail count.
magnolia72
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It's a rare day that I can fit all of my packages and trays of mail into the buggy and make 1 trip to load. I'm usually loading my packages first, then go back inside, pull down and load the mail in my car. There's no way I could get away with 1 trip to load. Last mail count, the PM timed me for each trip I had to make to load my car. Hopefully, he will do that again this time.
magnolia72
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I greatly appreciate all the information and help y'all have given me throughout the years. You have no idea how good it feels to actually feel like you have someone in your corner especially since I don't feel I have that in my own office. Thank You All!!
Deer smearer and all------------You would be correct. Our local agreed to the 20 seconds on DPS rifling. I found the step 4 that does indeed state actual time.
gerl2
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I suppose that is what you all agreed, they gave our one route credit for this 1 minute to change scanner zip when done she had to change it back for another minute equals 2 minutes.
We didn't agree to it. The PM said there was no additional allowance for the additional work. We said, if that is the case, we wouldn't do the additional work. She used the old "it's built in" line and we said BS. That's why I wondered if you had any reference to back-up our claim. Some PMs are reasonable. Others not so much.
Kind of like the safety talks. She would not give credit for the Saturday safety talks to the RCAs. We said, if that is the case, no safety talks to the RCAs unless they were being paid for to listen to the propaganda.
callofthewild
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Twice in my career, I made the next Evaluation level by just one minute. That one minute was worth almost $2,000.00 over the year. Do everything legal you can do to get the best time you can get right up to a 46K...............sweet zone. Then do your level best to keep it there for at least 3 years to get your high 3. You can do this Nickiegirl62.
martian et al -- " "gerl2" post of - What a lot of carriers do miss is if you have to change your scanner in and out of zip codes. 1 minute each time." "
Do you have a reference for this? Our PM said no credit and thus we do not change our scanner zip code since our last mail count."
-- By not changing ZIP Codes, doesn't that result in a lot of missed scans? ( asked by someone who never had to change ZIP Codes )
-- Does not seem to be addressed in the 2018 NRLCA Mail Count Guide, but something that should be brought up in a Pre-Count meeting.
Do you have a reference for this? Our PM said no credit and thus we do not change our scanner zip code since our last mail count."
-- By not changing ZIP Codes, doesn't that result in a lot of missed scans? ( asked by someone who never had to change ZIP Codes )
-- Does not seem to be addressed in the 2018 NRLCA Mail Count Guide, but something that should be brought up in a Pre-Count meeting.
Its so sad that so many PO's do not do the mail count exactly the same.
So, I was lied to all these years about, you could not load packages etc... in order !! Of course, I did it anyway, and as slow as I could get away with !!!!
martian et al -- "Kind of like the safety talks. She would not give credit for the Saturday safety talks to the RCAs. We said, if that is the case, no safety talks to the RCAs unless they were being paid for to listen to the propaganda."
-- That is addressed in the 2018 MCG! And unfortunately sides with manglement on page 27.
An additional time credit ( normally 5 minutes ) MUST be given to the route IF management elects to repeat a weekly safety talk for relief employees or a carrier who was not present. ( allows manglement not to repeat, but read on.. )
-- Another way to go at this would be to file a Form 1767. If something was important enough to hold a Safety Talk, then one could say those who were not present might be put at risk. Check with the office "Safety Ambassador" as well with the Assistant District Representative.
-- Also on page 27: Weekly safety talks MUST be conducted. The actual time required ( usually five minutes per week ) MUST be recorded in Column 17.
-- Didn't get a weekly Safety Talk? Request the " usual" 5 minutes or file a grievance instead of Form 1767.
-- That is addressed in the 2018 MCG! And unfortunately sides with manglement on page 27.
An additional time credit ( normally 5 minutes ) MUST be given to the route IF management elects to repeat a weekly safety talk for relief employees or a carrier who was not present. ( allows manglement not to repeat, but read on.. )
-- Another way to go at this would be to file a Form 1767. If something was important enough to hold a Safety Talk, then one could say those who were not present might be put at risk. Check with the office "Safety Ambassador" as well with the Assistant District Representative.
-- Also on page 27: Weekly safety talks MUST be conducted. The actual time required ( usually five minutes per week ) MUST be recorded in Column 17.
-- Didn't get a weekly Safety Talk? Request the " usual" 5 minutes or file a grievance instead of Form 1767.
