NRLCA. RRECS training

[Carrierguy]

Equal Representation

So is training a form of representation?

 

[gotstamps]

So is training a form of representation?

Nope. Training is provided by the employer which consisted of a Standup Talk & a ”Cheat Sheet”.

 

[Carrierguy]

Nope. Training is provided by the employer which consisted of a Standup Talk & a ”Cheat Sheet”.

You’ve gotta admit, that was one riveting and well taught Standup Talk!

 

[FrozenToes]

I do all my checking on scans daily under EoS never heard a peep. Everything else gets questioned religiously just never EoS or load times.

I haven't been either. It's in the Q & A.

 

[KDM]

So the union only provides training to those who pay them? I thought we were supposed to get equal treatment.

Why should you get the same benefits as paying members?

 

[stillfirstclass]

No one gave as much training on the old system as rrecs.

you had me till this sentence

 

[TheMailman302]

Too many unanswered questions tied to RRECS. National grievances will have to settle the unknown. Like with the old mail count, didn't they thrown out three national counts before it actually took hold? Its just a shame table 2ers think they know how it all needs to go down. Patience grasshopper.

 

[KDM]

you had me till this sentence

Maybe you received more training on the old system but I never received a book with all of the info just kind of picked the info up along the way.

 

[Dumbassclerksyndrome]

Union Reps are training the PMs & Supervisors along with Local Stews if sent.

Exactly my point. My area… union pacify management, thus different answers for same question

 

[Oi veh.]

Maybe you received more training on the old system but I never received a book with all of the info just kind of picked the info up along the way.

the union always printed a mail count guide...

 

[Dumbassclerksyndrome]

@Carrierguy … IMO… to start a paper trail and documentation, put in writing a request to see all documentation for your rte.. EOR, PNI, scans, time input per 4240, etc. give 24 hrs for each day. Have management sign request. If won’t sign, notate as such ( no arguments, unlike me). Then file grievance for failure of management to provide necessary tools and equipment for a carrier to preform one’s job. This way you’ve started the process when you grieve RRECS

 

[TheMailman302]

Maybe you received more training on the old system but I never received a book with all of the info just kind of picked the info up along the way.

The union would hold mail count meetings too. Every. Single. Time. Might even be easier now, they can do videos and upload to the NRLCA website.

 

[stillfirstclass]

The union would hold mail count meetings too. Every. Single. Time. Might even be easier now, they can do videos and upload to the NRLCA website.

i was blessed living where i do, i was within 45 minutes of 4 different mail count schools.. would go to 2 of em....

 

[csparks]

On the issue of whether the union "owes" all carriers access to RRECs training/info, I don't feel they owe it to all. But, it seems like something that would benefit the union to do.

Kinda like the US' history of helping other nations rebuild after a war. Seems strange and costly, but in the long term (theoretically) it can be a benefit because it steers that nation toward democracy or other ends that prove beneficial toward the US.

Allowing all to see it could only result in better RRECs participation and benefit the craft overall. It might even bring in a few new members?

 

[KDM]

The union would hold mail count meetings too. Every. Single. Time. Might even be easier now, they can do videos and upload to the NRLCA website.

I went to the meetings and they said what should be counted but they didn't explain every little part. They were more interested in eating. I went to the meeting for rrecs and they were explaining and answering questions plus all of the zoom meetings and other online info. People know more than they admit and know the numbers for the formulas are bad and it doesn't look good.

 

[KDM]

I found it interesting. A dues paying coworker and I were discussing the training video. She can't get through it and doesn't want to watch it. She said she likes to forget about work as soon as she leaves.
This is the consensus with my other coworkers. Then there is me that will spend hours reading and trying to understand the job on my off time.

I worked 15 years in a different industry. Training was encouraged and you actually got paid for the training. Some was on the job training and some training involved attending seminars and classes. My employer paid for my training always.
It's just weird here at the if

If people have access to union info and don't want to use it that is on them but if non union members feel the union has information they need why not be a member. Half of America feels they are intitled to someone else's benefits. This info is free and online.

 

[stillfirstclass]

It's just weird here at the PO

thank you for the g rated language lol but we know what you really wanted to say

 

[stillfirstclass]

In my eyes this issue isn't dues paying vs non dues paying at all

keep preaching brother, you are right on!

 

[KDM]

I am honestly disgusted with both sides for how this is rolling out to the craft.
My problem with this is the union shouldn't be holding the info hostage.
The PO should be giving us better quality info.
We should all be paid to learn the info.
This is literally a brand new pay system.

This was in the making and design phase for years.
The parties couldn't come up with a joint training that would be mandatory and paid for to all us Carriers.
In my eyes this issue isn't dues paying vs non dues paying at all.

Union has nothing to do with it. Maybe they should be trying harder to force the PO to train us because that is who employs us.

 

[TheDude]

Union has nothing to do with it. Maybe they should be trying harder to force the PO to train us because that is who employs us.

That's a good idea.

Will the Union support a grievance by a regular carrier because a non-union RCA caused significant damage to their route evaluation while covering said route due to lack of training?