Overtime rate

[Troy73]

On my pay stubs shows different ot rate for week 1 and week 2 not a big difference but want to be sure it is correct

 

[Troy73]

On my pay stubs shows different ot rate for week 1 and week 2 not a big difference but want to be sure it is correct View attachment 5415

Also was different last year as well

 

[gotstamps]

If you are referring to the “19.70“ & “17.18”, those are your hours, not your pay rate. If you worked your Relief Day in each week, those hours & $$$ are included in those #s.

 

[FrozenToes]

Also was different last year as well

Did you work both of your relief days?
46K 57,784/yr
333.37 if you work your K day ( 9.2 hours)
Week 1 19.7 ( total) - 9.2 ( K day hours) = 10.5 additional OT hours
730.89 ( total) - 333.37 ( K day) = 397.52 divided by 10.5 = 37.86/hr OT
Week 2 17.18 ( total) - 9.2 ( K day hours) = 7.98 additional OT hours
635.48 ( total) -333.37 ( K day) = 302.11 divided by 7.98 = 37.86/hr OT
They are the same rate.

 

[FrozenToes]

Also was different last year as well

Your pay rate was most likely different. And....
The overtime rate you are paid is also based on the actual hours you have worked since the guarantee period started. More hours worked = lower OT rate, Less hours worked = Higher OT rate

"Overtime Rate
The overtime rate paid to regular (FLSA Code B) carriers is 150 percent of the carrier’s regular rate. The regular rate is determined by dividing the total compensation received for hours actually worked by the carrier since the beginning of the Guarantee Year (not including overtime), by the total number of hours worked since the beginning of the Guarantee Year (not including overtime). This overtime rate is used for both FLSA overtime and Christmas overtime."

 

[Sandygirl]

Did you work both of your relief days?
46K 57,784/yr
333.37 if you work your K day ( 9.2 hours)
Week 1 19.7 ( total) - 9.2 ( K day hours) = 10.5 additional OT hours
730.89 ( total) - 333.37 ( K day) = 397.52 divided by 10.5 = 37.86/hr OT
Week 2 17.18 ( total) - 9.2 ( K day hours) = 7.98 additional OT hours
635.48 ( total) -333.37 ( K day) = 302.11 divided by 7.98 = 37.86/hr OT
They are the same rate.

I have worked many jobs USPS has most complicated pay stub , hands down !!!

 

[DB.Cooper]

Your regular hours worked out to $24.16 per hour... so, 1.5 x $24.16 is $36.24... and your OT rate on the pay stub worked out to $36.99 and $37.11 per hour respectively.... so, it seems like you did a little better than time and half for both weeks... even though they're slightly different... as @FrozenToes was saying, it might have to do with how many hours you worked on your K days....

1111.23 ÷ 46 = 24.16

24.16 x 1.5 = 36.24

730.98 ÷ 19.70 = 37.11
635.48 ÷ 17.18 = 36.99

 

[gotstamps]

Your regular hours worked out to $24.16 per hour... so, 1.5 x $24.16 is $36.24... and your OT rate on the pay stub worked out to $36.99 and $37.10 per hour respectively.... so, it seems like you did a little better than time and half for both weeks... even though they're slightly different... as @FrozenToes was saying, it might have to do with how many hours you worked on your K days....

OT doesn’t go by that per/hour rate. Your calculation for the hourly rate is incorrect, also. A Regs hourly rate is based on the 40-hour annual pay decided by 2080 hours.
The Relief Day is 150% of your normal Daily Rate. Christmas OT is calculated from the $$$$/hours worked since Guarantee Period begin.

None of this has to do with the hours worked on the Relief Day.

 

[DB.Cooper]

OT doesn’t go by that per/hour rate. Your calculation for the hourly rate is incorrect, also. A Regs hourly rate is based on the 40-hour annual pay decided by 2080 hours.
The Relief Day is 150% of your normal Daily Rate. Christmas OT is calculated from the $$$$/hours worked since Guarantee Period begin.

None of this has to do with the hours worked on the Relief Day.

I did oversimplify, as the regular hours are the 1st 40 and, everything over 40 are at the OT rate... but, it does give an appoximation... in fact, using the hourly rate for the 1st 40 hours, actually jack's up the OT rate they received even higher... what they received was over 1.5 times above the 40 regular hours and 6 OT hours rate that makes up the normal 46 hour week.... so without going in to calculating all the hours worked since the beginning of the guarantee year, this shows an approximation, and would lead me to believe they didn't get shortchanged...

 

[hobbitt]

1st 46 hrs of each week is your regular evaliated pay anytime over 46 on each week is 1.5 times your hourly pay

 

[gotstamps]

1st 46 hrs of each week is your regular evaliated pay anytime over 46 on each week is 1.5 times your hourly pay

Except for your Relief Day which is the full daily evaluated hours, the remainder of the hours IF over 46 would be Christmas OT pay. Christmas OT is NOT 1.5 of your hourly rate but is 1.5 times the AVERAGE hourly rate from October 9 to the most previous Pay Period.

 

[hobbitt]

Except for your Relief Day which is the full daily evaluated hours, the remainder of the hours IF over 46 would be Christmas OT pay. Christmas OT is NOT 1.5 of your hourly rate but is 1.5 times the AVERAGE hourly rate from October 9 to the most previous Pay Period.

Damn that's complicated!

 

[DB.Cooper]

1st 46 hrs of each week is your regular evaliated pay anytime over 46 on each week is 1.5 times your hourly pay

That's sorta what I was saying... dividing the 46 hours each week into the weekly pay yields an average hourly rate of 24.16. (1111.23 ÷ 46 = 24.16).... and 1.5 times that is $36.24 (24.16 x 1.5 = 36.24).. so what showed on the pay stub as OT, for both weeks was above this average hourly rate (730.98 ÷ 19.70 = 37.11
& 635.48 ÷ 17.18 = 36.99)....

So, if they're getting more than 1.5 above their 40 regular hour rate plus their 6 hour OT weekly rate.... js... seems they're not getting shortchanged.... I guess someone could calculate the 40 hour rate, and then see how much higher the OT rate was.... it'd certainly be well above time and half tho....

 

[DB.Cooper]

Damn that's complicated!

That's why I tried to break it down to something comprehendable .... anybody who can show all the math including the guarantee year hours calculations... more power to ya...

 

[hobbitt]

That's why I tried to break it down to something comprehendable .... anybody who can show all the math including the guarantee year hours calculations... more power to ya...

Just love being retired!!!!

 

[gotstamps]

That's sorta what I was saying... dividing the 46 hours each week into the weekly pay yields an average hourly rate of 24.16. (1111.23 ÷ 46 = 24.16).... and 1.5 times that is $36.24 (24.16 x 1.5 = 36.24).. so what showed on the pay stub as OT, for both weeks was above this average hourly rate (730.98 ÷ 19.70 = 37.11
& 635.48 ÷ 17.18 = 36.99)....

So, if they're getting more than 1.5 above their 40 regular hour rate plus their 6 hour OT weekly rate.... js... seems they're not getting shortchanged.... I guess someone could calculate the 40 hour rate, and then see how much higher the OT rate was.... it'd certainly be well above time and half tho....

Unfortunately with the way you are calculating it, you could be way off in either direction. It really all depends on whether the Carrier is under evaluation or over & if it’s consistent or not. Some in my office can run their 9 hour route in 6 hours fairly consistently, even in Christmas OT Period.

Ex: If they were to make the normal hourly rate for a Schedule 1 Step 12 of $30.33/hr and consistently average at 6 hrs on a 9 hr route, they actual out at $48.02/hr (approx). That hourly rate of $48.02 x 1.5= $72.03/hr as the Christmas OT rate.
Say that same Carrier took an average or 10 hours to run that 9 hr route with the same pay. Now their hourly rate goes down to $43.22/hr. The Christmas OT rate calculates to $43.22 x 1.5= $64.83/hr.
If working your Relief Day at the same pay schedule yields a daily rate of $288.18 x 1.5= $432.27. This amount & the Daily hours deducted from the OT pay during Christmas OT Period would allow the carrier to calculate their Special pay rate for all that extra OT.
Take that 9 hours of OT out of (let’s use 17.18 hrs) 17.18 hrs worked leaving 8.18 hrs of Christmas OT. If the carrier were fast carrier at 72.03/hr= $589.21+ $432.27= $1021.48 for that 17.18 hrs. If they are slow carrier at $64.83/hr= &530.32 + $432.27= $962.58.
That would be an almost $60 difference.

To be certain that any Christmas OT calculations were correct, you would need to gather all paystubs from October 9 to the Previous pay period & add all the money & hours from normal work/pay & divide it out to the hourly rate.

 

[DB.Cooper]

Unfortunately with the way you are calculating it, you could be way off in either direction. It really all depends on whether the Carrier is under evaluation or over & if it’s consistent or not. Some in my office can run their 9 hour route in 6 hours fairly consistently, even in Christmas OT Period.

Ex: If they were to make the normal hourly rate for a Schedule 1 Step 12 of $30.33/hr and consistently average at 6 hrs on a 9 hr route, they actual out at $48.02/hr (approx). That hourly rate of $48.02 x 1.5= $72.03/hr as the Christmas OT rate.
Say that same Carrier took an average or 10 hours to run that 9 hr route with the same pay. Now their hourly rate goes down to $43.22/hr. The Christmas OT rate calculates to $43.22 x 1.5= $64.83/hr.
If working your Relief Day at the same pay schedule yields a daily rate of $288.18 x 1.5= $432.27. This amount & the Daily hours deducted from the OT pay during Christmas OT Period would allow the carrier to calculate their Special pay rate for all that extra OT.
Take that 9 hours of OT out of (let’s use 17.18 hrs) 17.18 hrs worked leaving 8.18 hrs of Christmas OT. If the carrier were fast carrier at 72.03/hr= $589.21+ $432.27= $1021.48 for that 17.18 hrs. If they are slow carrier at $64.83/hr= &530.32 + $432.27= $962.58.
That would be an almost $60 difference.

To be certain that any Christmas OT calculations were correct, you would need to gather all paystubs from October 9 to the Previous pay period & add all the money & hours from normal work/pay & divide it out to the hourly rate.

Yes, obviously without all the pay stubs it's not possible to calculate down to a gnat's @$$... my quick calculations showed they were getting well over time and a half, which is usually good enuff for most peeps.... and my numbers were pretty close to what Toes calculated as their OT rate... so, in this case it seems to me the quick calculations suffice... of course if they wanna check it down to the gnat's @$$, they got the paystibs and so forth to do it..... but, imo, it's close enuf for Gov't work....