Required to use Load Truck (Scan) for Auxiliary

[Deer Smearer]

Here is a scenario to ponder for those discussing , and anyone else for that matter , the "double credit" issue regarding scanning parcels while using the "load truck" feature during a count when you are getting actual time credit for the loading. A carrier that takes automated mail , DPS and / or FSS , to the street brings back 3M mail from the automated mail. Some of that mail may have been mis-sequenced mail that would be credited as raw mail, letters and / or flats as appropriate, for THAT day. That mail goes to the 3M case. Okay, next day of count, that very same mis-sequenced mail is back in the hot case for credit AGAIN for THAT day. This equates to "double credit" as well. Also, if there is more than one route counting, the mis-sorted mail becomes another potential vector in the equation for all of the routes that are counting. And that's not mention that any mail brought back from the street from automated mail or culled out while casing gets "double credit" as well. That automated mail is NOT deducted from the end runs report(s) and IS credited as raw letters and /or flats as appropriate.
As a side note, I noticed that the settlement also states " when loading an Employer provided vehicle." Well, what about the P.O.V. ?

Load truck won’t work with a POV. There aren’t any numbers in them to indicate what quadrant sections 5 & 6 are.

 

[There'salight]

The point of it is accountability.
A Carrier using the Load Truck shows that that Carrier actually has the package in their vehicle & cannot deny it later if questioned. If a customer doesn’t receive their package, they can see that the Carrier had it in their possession & where it was scanned as “Delivered”. If a carrier gets back to the office & it shows as a “missed scan” mgmt can prove that the Carrier had it & possibly didn’t scan it. This could possibly be used in discipline if it seems to be a reoccurring issue.
It can also save a Carrier if they didn’t have the package to scan in loading but it shows that it did get sorted to a route & goes missing.

Our office has been in the Study for at least 10 years.
We have never used this function for any reason.

 

[Worve]

only time I choose to use load truck is when I do a route cold. Makes loading properly in my POV a lot easier and finding them on the case to mark.

load truck does provide section and sequence number ie section 6 #451. If everything matches book and 4003 it does work really well. If the reg/rca doesnt keep everything updated it’s a giant cluster and not worth the time.

 

[hockey94]

According to the "district" stooges we are the ones who miss scans, not the shoddy technology !
They never want to hear that the scanners SUCK !

 

[Deer Smearer]

It did (maybe still does) provide the overall sequence number as an audible to mark the package which would serve a purpose to pov drivers.

I think you missed the parody of my post. There was a post somewhere of a manglement person talking about how the scanner tells the carriers which one of SIX quadrants they should load the parcel.

 

[neciat]

Load truck won’t work with a POV. There aren’t any numbers in them to indicate what quadrant sections 5 & 6 are.

I know. But the scanner doesn't know that UNLESS when a POV carrier logs on / in that log in info disables the load truck. My deal with my previous post was the "double credit" issue. There are many other scenarios where what is referred to as "double credit" it nothing of the sort. It is getting FULL credit for what is done. Another example would be this ; on a Tuesday you get a certified letter. Okay, credit for one accountable. That certified was notified on that Tuesday and then on Friday there is one of those computer generated requests for a re-delivery attempt. Does the carrier NOT get credit because he / she already received credit on Tuesday ? So, if it were me, I would be lobbying for each scan on each item not as "double credit" but as what it actually is.

 

[gotstamps]

I know. But the scanner doesn't know that UNLESS when a POV carrier logs on / in that log in info disables the load truck. My deal with my previous post was the "double credit" issue. There are many other scenarios where what is referred to as "double credit" it nothing of the sort. It is getting FULL credit for what is done. Another example would be this ; on a Tuesday you get a certified letter. Okay, credit for one accountable. That certified was notified on that Tuesday and then on Friday there is one of those computer generated requests for a re-delivery attempt. Does the carrier NOT get credit because he / she already received credit on Tuesday ? So, if it were me, I would be lobbying for each scan on each item not as "double credit" but as what it actually is.

If you carry a Certified twice due to a re-delivery request then it’s a credit for carrying & handling it for each day.
Using Load Function is a TIMED event so no credit for scanning those in. You will still get the delivery scan when you do that.

 

[PapahSmurf]

During our count in office, 3 Auxiliary Routes are required to use Load Truck scan feature.
They are being timed for this while loading.

My question:

Besides the extra time to load, would we also get more scans in box 15? For scanning items into back of vehicle.

I have looked and found nothing so far on NRLCA website or this website for a reference to this answer.

Most days I have 4 carts of parcels. I have to separate 4 zones into 3 sub-zones as I mark them, I load it so I can just pull stuff off mainly in order since the LLV is floor to ceiling most days.

I would love this timed function. I am sure I could make it an hour and a half of loading a day with my 225+ scans.

 

[neciat]

If you carry a Certified twice due to a re-delivery request then it’s a credit for carrying & handling it for each day.
Using Load Function is a TIMED event so no credit for scanning those in. You will still get the delivery scan when you do that.

I know gotstamps. And I'm 99% positive that my argument would lose and come out the way you have explained and that's okay. I am not afraid to be wrong or afraid to lose. That makes me dangerous and a threat to those that would lie, cheat, steal, pull the wool, etc. I was only hoping to inspire those that are undergoing this circumstance to challenge this because there is nothing to lose and something to gain. Also, this WILL come up somewhere some day and we will need clarifying language on this very issue. I do see it the way you have explained but also believe I have a valid argument as well and there are many, many more instances of "double credit" that exist. I just generally do not tip my whole hand until necessary.

 

[psd181]

Pay attention to the first letter.
It is a settlement dated 2019 & does states that “management may require rural craft employees who are being compensated hourly to use the load truck feature.”

As long as RCAs are being paid on a green card, they are hourly. When their actual work hours exceed 40 hours, then they are hourly. If the Union meant strictly Sunday o Holidays when RCAs are paid hourly, they would have stated that.

don't forget...... the rca who is on a route they haven't carried in a year is an "hourly" employee also

 

[gotstamps]

don't forget...... the rca who is on a route they haven't carried in a year is an "hourly" employee also

ONLY if they go over the evaluation otherwise they aren’t. Al subs should be writing in their correct times Regardless of eval or hourly. If, at the end of the day, the subs finds that they wi
ll be hourly, mark out the green card & forget about it.