Shifts in Territory Question

[solada]

After eval, My route gain 1 hour from 43k to 44k. The management want to cut 3 stops plus 1 school in exchange of 2 stop. Can I refuse or what is my option?

 

[Worve]

You are not overburdened they should not be touching route at all. Contact rep and have conversations with them.

 

[solada]

I briefly texting with my rep, she mentioned that the management can adjust as shifting in territory. But as I calculate, They will take away more in exchange back which seem unfair. The rep should call me later today.

 

[Shannonboy]

Stay on your rep...they are notorious for not getting back to you, and just leaving you hanging....

 

[solada]

just talked to Rep, she said the management can adjust my route as long as it stay 44k

 

[Worve]

I briefly texting with my rep, she mentioned that the management can adjust as shifting in territory. But as I calculate, They will take away more in exchange back which seem unfair. The rep should call me later today.

Politely refuse any territory being shifted in writing get it signed as management reading it. Go above that reps head at that point.

 

[solada]

I will refuse and deny any adjustments but it seems the management will do it anyway. They said my route will stay 44k after adjustment which I am not worry about it now. My route will go down in the future because I will lost about 30 customers, 2 dismounted and 3 regular pickups.

 

[gotstamps]

Politely refuse any territory being shifted in writing get it signed as management reading it. Go above that reps head at that point.

Mgmt is allowed to adjust territories if they need to while cutting a route.
If mgmt is doing territory changes, “squaring up”, while cutting an overburdened then they must keep the non-overburdened routes at the same evaluation as before.

 

[solada]

They are not going to cut any route since most of the route in my station came back from all 43k to j or h. I am the only one that gain. Some of them stay the same but majority are down. They mentioned about shifting territory on my route to build my neighbor’s routes and it seem unfair how much they are taking and my gain.

 

[SnowshoesThompson]

Have they already plugged the numbers into the program? It is possible the proposal will be rejected.

I was squared up last summer. They proposed taking 80 houses and giving me one stop of cluster boxes with 50 houses. The program rejected it and they had to give me more. So they ended up giving me 100 curbside units. I learned after it was all done that they actually snuck in 6 extra houses to make the numbers fit because I was less than 5 minutes from the next hour.

 

[stingrayiii]

Mgmt is allowed to adjust territories if they need to while cutting a route.
If mgmt is doing territory changes, “squaring up”, while cutting an overburdened then they must keep the non-overburdened routes at the same evaluation as before.

Yep, you are correct.

 

[U caught my attention]

Have they already plugged the numbers into the program? It is possible the proposal will be rejected.

I was squared up last summer. They proposed taking 80 houses and giving me one stop of cluster boxes with 50 houses. The program rejected it and they had to give me more. So they ended up giving me 100 curbside units. I learned after it was all done that they actually snuck in 6 extra houses to make the numbers fit because I was less than 5 minutes from the next hour.

Yeah. Some things can be shady when all they want are the numbers to work out. Its annoying. "Accidentally" leave out just enough to keep the route less than.
I saw what they did to mine, but I let them.
It just showed me how little my efforts really matter to them. Effort is mine to give.
Sad the games that can be played at our expense when frozen/grievance is the result.