There's not a scan for that.

[Joe Reeser]

We should get used to realizing this, I guess.

Today I had full-coverage WSS letters that came in separate trays from everything else. The problem was the plant had gotten ahold of them and they were no longer in walk sequence. I spent half-an-hour or so putting them back in sequence so I could take them on the side.* I asked the Supervisor how I could ensure I got credit for these and he was clueless. So am I actually. I scanned them as WSS letters but of course that isn't anywhere near the credit I should get for them.

Anyone have any ideas?


*These aren't actual letters. They are small packets of ads wrapped in a slick plastic that makes then an extra special pain in the backside to case.

 

[Worve]

If they were not in walk sequence anymore do to no fault of your own. I would have shown management explained they are no longer in walk sequence. Then hit box holders letters.

 

[Jiminy Christmas]

If they were not in walk sequence anymore do to no fault of your own. I would have shown management explained they are no longer in walk sequence. Then hit box holders letters.

I 'm pretty sure that would be less credit

 

[Joe Reeser]

If they were not in walk sequence anymore do to no fault of your own. I would have shown management explained they are no longer in walk sequence. Then hit box holders letters.

Boxholders are not addressed and would give even less time than WSS Letters. These were addressed letters so would have to be either cased or re-sequenced. I don't know how to get credit for that time. I'm not sure there is a way.

 

[Worve]

I 'm pretty sure that would be less credit

12. Boxholders
The Panel established two separate standards for casing boxholders. S012 (Case Boxholder Flats) is 0.0646 minutes per piece (15.48 pieces per minute). S013 (Case Boxholder Letters is 0.0303 minutes per piece (33 pieces per minute). The average weekly boxholders received is determined by carrier input on the MDD. Each time a route receives a set of boxholders, the carrier will indicate on the MDD that a set was received and whether it was letter or flat sized. The 52‐week average is determined by multiplying the average number of sets received per week times the number of deliveries on the route.

I realize wss letters get slightly better time wise at 27.5 letter per minute to be delivered. But boxholder gives you the credit in office for dealing with them being out of sequence. Sounded like OP had all ready hit wss letter entering boxholder letters would give credit in office.

 

[RR5]

Never ask a supervisor. Just hit the rrecs option.

 

[Defiant]

We should get used to realizing this, I guess.

Today I had full-coverage WSS letters that came in separate trays from everything else. The problem was the plant had gotten ahold of them and they were no longer in walk sequence. I spent half-an-hour or so putting them back in sequence so I could take them on the side.* I asked the Supervisor how I could ensure I got credit for these and he was clueless. So am I actually. I scanned them as WSS letters but of course that isn't anywhere near the credit I should get for them.

Anyone have any ideas?


*These aren't actual letters. They are small packets of ads wrapped in a slick plastic that makes then an extra special pain in the backside to case.

Fix them under a timed event like PMCASING or just add it to your 2080 clock. Why is there such a resistance from this group to use the contract? Do you understand, no matter how mad they get, they have nobody to replace you?

 

[Joe Reeser]

12. Boxholders, et al...

This whole casing of boxholders didn't make any sense to me at first but now I see that what they're calling a credit for casing is really all the credit we receive. As you pointed out, S013 (CaseBoxholder Letters) is 0.0303 minutes per piece (33 pieces per minute). But Walk‐Sequenced Letters (S011) are credited with a standard (S011) of 0.0364 minutes per piece or 27.5 letters per minute.

So the WSS Letters would still give me more time but not enough to re-sequence them.

 

[C$$]

During the mini mail count (aka mail survey) they would count as raw mail, right?

Outside of the sample window, I don't know. Tough draw?

Send them back to the plant to run in DPS?

 

[Jiminy Christmas]

Fix them under a timed event like PMCASING or just add it to your 2080 clock. Why is there such a resistance from this group to use the contract? Do you understand, no matter how mad they get, they have nobody to replace you?

PMCASING is not a timed event. It stops the clock on End of Shift Duties, which is a timed event.

 

[Joe Reeser]

Fix them under a timed event like PMCASING or just add it to your 2080 clock. Why is there such a resistance from this group to use the contract? Do you understand, no matter how mad they get, they have nobody to replace you?

Is there something in the contract about WSS Letters getting screwed up? Because if there is I missed it. I am merely looking for information on how such an occurrence should be treated under RRECS. Do you know?

 

[Defiant]

PMCASING is not a timed event. It stops the clock on End of Shift Duties, which is a timed event.

It is a timed event that defines the activities<casing>you do AFTER end of shift duties and BEFORE you clockout.

 

[Joe Reeser]

During the mini mail count (aka mail survey) they would count as raw mail, right?

I believe so, yes.

Outside of the sample window, I don't know.

I don't know either. lol

I'm guessing as time goes on, more instances of unforeseen happenings will show up.

 

[ATCBigE]

We should get used to realizing this, I guess.

Today I had full-coverage WSS letters that came in separate trays from everything else. The problem was the plant had gotten ahold of them and they were no longer in walk sequence. I spent half-an-hour or so putting them back in sequence so I could take them on the side.* I asked the Supervisor how I could ensure I got credit for these and he was clueless. So am I actually. I scanned them as WSS letters but of course that isn't anywhere near the credit I should get for them.

Anyone have any ideas?


*These aren't actual letters. They are small packets of ads wrapped in a slick plastic that makes then an extra special pain in the backside to case.

Better yet.

Getting a bunch of political ads that are in bundle. Well they are WAY OUT OF ORDER!!!!! It has been a theme for the last few weeks.

No scan for that when I continuous have to turn around back and forth on my case to do them. Half tempted to send them to plant or something to get that counted.

 

[Defiant]

Is there something in the contract about WSS Letters getting screwed up? Because if there is I missed it. I am merely looking for information on how such an occurrence should be treated under RRECS. Do you know?

Yes I do, there is only one way, PMCASING. If you would rather fix them manually, add that to your 2080 clock.

 

[Joe Reeser]

It is a timed event that defines the activities<casing>you do AFTER end of shift duties and BEFORE you clockout.

I don't believe this is a timed event. In the RRECS Q&A, the answer to question 289 is given thusly:

There is no "credit" for PM casing. The PMCASING entry on the MDD STOPS the clock on your End of Shift Time. Casing time, whether completed in the AM or PM is included in the time allowance for each type of mail and based on the number of pieces received each day. It has nothing to do with actual time spent casing.​

There doesn't seem to be any actual time credited within RRECS when "PM casing."

 

[Joe Reeser]

...add that to your 2080 clock.

I have no idea what you mean by this. Could you explain?

 

[Defiant]

I don't believe this is a timed event. In the RRECS Q&A, the answer to question 289 is given thusly:

There is no "credit" for PM casing. The PMCASING entry on the MDD STOPS the clock on your End of Shift Time. Casing time, whether completed in the AM or PM is included in the time allowance for each type of mail and based on the number of pieces received each day. It has nothing to do with actual time spent casing.​

There doesn't seem to be any actual time credited within RRECS when "PM casing."

SO WHY DOES IT EVEN EXIST under RRECS?

 

[Worve]

Wonder if something like this would need to be fixed while under load time. It in all reality makes the most sense. No double dipping and it’s a timed event so you get the actual time averaged out.

maybe I am an odd duck but boxholders I always just take on the side. walk sequence I always case. Half or more of our walk sequence does not have or current resident and I do not know all the names on every route.

 

[mar88]

SO WHY DOES IT EVEN EXIST under RRECS?

It exists to "stop the clock". You already getting time under the evaluated system for casing the mail that you choose to case in the PM. "End of shift duties" is the time for all things you do in the evening that have no set time standard (edit book, case labels, parking and emptying truck, turning in keys, etc.)