There's not a scan for that.

[Joe Reeser]

SO WHY DOES IT EVEN EXIST under RRECS?

It's used only to stop the clock on an "actual time" event. It is not an "actual time" event itself.

 

[neciat]

@Joe Reeser Was there a tag(s) in the tray(s) they came in ? If there was, they would be credited under the "cased" column on the WebEor for letters. That is the raw letter column. If your office isn't or hasn't from time to time made these reports available , one for flats and one for letters, they should be.

 

[Joe Reeser]

Wonder if something like this would need to be fixed while under load time. It in all reality makes the most sense. No double dipping and it’s a timed event so you get the actual time averaged out.

This actually makes the most sense to me, right now. I hadn't thought of it.

maybe I am an odd duck but boxholders I always just take on the side. walk sequence I always case.

I always take boxholders on the side as well. I hate having unaddressed mail in the case. Walk sequence I sometimes case but I generally take those on the side as well. Since I'm the regular on the route, I know the names. It's easier with only one route, obviously. lol

 

[Defiant]

It exists to "stop the clock". You already getting time under the evaluated system for casing the mail that you choose to case in the PM. "End of shift duties" is the time for all things you do in the evening that have no set time standard (edit book, case labels, parking and emptying truck, turning in keys, etc.)

CLOCKOUT stops the Clock. Why do you need PMCASING to stop the clock??

 

[Joe Reeser]

@Joe Reeser Was there a tag(s) in the tray(s) they came in ? If there was, they would be credited under the "cased" column on the WebEor for letters. That is the raw letter column. If your office isn't or hasn't from time to time made these reports available , one for flats and one for letters, they should be.

There were tags but they weren't even in the correct trays. Some of my trays were labeled for city 16. Our plant has been screwed up for the last four or five years. They either can't or won't fix it.

I've never seen a WebEOR report. I'll have to ask about that. We've never received any feedback at all on our RRECS activities.

 

[Worve]

This actually makes the most sense to me, right now. I hadn't thought of it.


I always take boxholders on the side as well. I hate having unaddressed mail in the case. Walk sequence I sometimes case but I generally take those on the side as well. Since I'm the regular on the route, I know the names. It's easier with only one route, obviously. lol

I didn’t either until i thought about it a bit more not in terms of rrecs scans but what would actually be best.


I despise unaddressed mail in case it is the number 1 way for me to miss deliver something every single time .

 

[Joe Reeser]

CLOCKOUT stops the Clock. Why do you need PMCASING to stop the clock??

Because you're not clocking out and you need to stop the clock on an "actual time" event.

 

[Joe Reeser]

I despise unaddressed mail in case it is the number 1 way for me to miss deliver something every single time .

same same.

 

[scotty]

CLOCKOUT stops the Clock. Why do you need PMCASING to stop the clock??

Because you don't clock out then case mail.

 

[neciat]

CLOCKOUT stops the Clock. Why do you need PMCASING to stop the clock??

CLOCKOUT is just that....................no longer on postal time. PMCASING only stops the clock on end of shift duties. Say you were going to PM case your walk sequence flat car ads for tomorrow. THAT is when you would hit PMCASING after you were done with all of your routine daily end of shift stuff like CFS /RTS , sort / disperse outgoing, markups, etc. Now, as an aside, I would wait until the NEXT day to enter the FLATSWSS that I cased the previous day so as to get credit for each box served. I don't trust that system to credit me with all boxes served AFTER I have hit RETURN2DU.

 

[Gotrope]

The engineers foresaw everything except our tasks. And
, politely, the nrlca never explained it.

C$$ IS CORRECT, IT COULD ONLY BE ADDRESSED IF OCCURRING DURING A MINI COUNT.

 

[neciat]

The engineers foresaw everything except our tasks. And
, politely, the nrlca never explained it.

C$$ IS CORRECT, IT COULD ONLY BE ADDRESSED IF OCCURRING DURING A MINI COUNT.

If the mail came WITH tag(s) from the plant either in bundles and / or trays , the route is credited with said volume. It is ONLY the manual mail NOT processed by the plant that we will be counting during the mini count. Stuff like YESTERDAY'S 3M mail , for example. I sure hope @Joe Reeser trays were plant processed. There was mention of wrong tags and I am all too familiar with that one.

 

[Gotrope]

I get the same coupons. They are rejected by the plant most times. Therefore, they are treated as a direct in routed trays by mailer. Should be wss but, a rough ride requires casing.

 

[magnolia72]

I have a WSS FLAT that comes that way every single month. Some are in order but the rest have busted bands and are all out of sequence. When I case them to put them back in order, I write down the time it took me to case them and pull them down. My PM pays me for that time under additional pay. After I pull them down and put them into a tray, I then enter WSSFLAT (or whatever the term) in the scanner.

 

[gotstamps]

It's used IF management wants you to leave in the morning to go get out on the rt. If there is too much mail to case that will make your window to deliver too small for you to finish casing. They can have you curtail. You still get the credit for the mail you curtailed in that days morning office time. Management could then tell you to case it after you get back during pm casing, so it's up for the next day. There is no evening credit for it because the credit was given in the morning.

Sorry, but that is incorrect. PMCASING is for casing mail that has been set out for the next day. It does not credit anything for that day or curtailed mail. If mgmt allows it then mail can be curtailed but only certain types like Catalogs or EDDM. There is no credit added for the office time. It simply “stops the clock” on a timed event so as to not double credit for the next day’s office work.
The Union & mgmt have now also utilized PMCASING for when mgmt requires a Carrier to make a 2nd trip upon completion of End Of Shift Duties.

 

[MildlyInfuriated]

If you didn’t case them, you should have put them in order when you saw they were out of order while you loaded your truck, wink wink.

 

[gotstamps]

Boxholders are not addressed and would give even less time than WSS Letters. These were addressed letters so would have to be either cased or re-sequenced. I don't know how to get credit for that time. I'm not sure there is a way.

WSS & Boxholders are very close in credit but WSS gives a bit more. Both are also Office Time. It would likely be counted as RAW mail during a Mail Count but there is no way to credit it between counts. The credit for WSS letters is almost the same as if changed to “substandard DPS” of which you’d have to case (.0365 vs .0364). There really is no answer unless during a mail count & even then it‘d need clarification.

 

[stillfirstclass]

Sorry, but that is incorrect. PMCASING is for casing mail that has been set out for the next day. It does not credit anything for that day or curtailed mail. If mgmt allows it then mail can be curtailed but only certain types like Catalogs or EDDM. There is no credit added for the office time. It simply “stops the clock” on a timed event so as to not double credit for the next day’s office work.
The Union & mgmt have now also utilized PMCASING for when mgmt requires a Carrier to make a 2nd trip upon completion of End Of Shift Duties.

more proof they can tinker/fix/alter/improve/ruin/adjust the "findings"

 

[ShouldHaveStayedInSchool]

Similar scenario with Bed Bath & Beyond flats. Some came (few) in FSS, the rest for the flats clerk to manually sort; and yes way out of delivery order. The EOR showed 12 AFSM, so no BB&B was reported as machine rejects. Was under the impression to just scan in WSS Flats but that was wrong. Was told during mail count they would be credited as raw flats. Anyone who has been through a mail count knows this is never going to happen this way.
Any future mailings I receive like this I’m just taking for a ride and casing during end of shift duties as I would with DPS letters. It may be wrong, but it’s also wrong that they are trying to pull this sh*t the rest of the year.

 

[mail1000]

Similar scenario with Bed Bath & Beyond flats. Some came (few) in FSS, the rest for the flats clerk to manually sort; and yes way out of delivery order. The EOR showed 12 AFSM, so no BB&B was reported as machine rejects. Was under the impression to just scan in WSS Flats but that was wrong. Was told during mail count they would be credited as raw flats. Anyone who has been through a mail count knows this is never going to happen this way.
Any future mailings I receive like this I’m just taking for a ride and casing during end of shift duties as I would with DPS letters. It may be wrong, but it’s also wrong that they are trying to pull this sh*t the rest of the year.

Our office was told to NEVER hit boxholder at all UNLESS every single box on route gets one, however a fellow carrier whom works in a nearby office was told different and scans ANYTHING with WSS/WSH on it....if the rules are not the same of RRECS on offices within 20 miles of each other (makes it highly confusing for subs working in both of these offices) I can only imagine the rules / chaos / frustration of nationwide offices-Again no training, no set rules, no answers to questions, mass confusion....NRLCA where are you?