DB.Cooper
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I don't get why we're gonna do Sundays for UPS... is it so they can have Sundays off??? DOH!?!? What kinda crap is that???
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DB.Cooper
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Was the Amazon peep driving the fancy new Mercedes van... all chilled out blasting the AC??? ?Lol, can I say the Amazon guy stopped me three times today to find out where some houses were. The third time I almost asked for a cut
Eyewash to help secure funding for new replacement vehicles.I don't get why we're gonna do Sundays for UPS... is it so they can have Sundays off??? DOH!?!? What kinda crap is that???
blamethesub
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Half the stuff I order from Amazon anymore comes UPS SurePost. All Amazon knows is they're sending it UPS. Then we get the "honor" of last mile delivery. That's why I was curious about the actual percentage UPS is listed as delivering for Amazon.
DB.Cooper
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Hail... they've been *talking* about new vehicles for YEARS now... Bezos, thought about it for about 2 minutes, and then BOOM... new fleet of Mercedes-Benz vans... no wonder the USPS will lose out to Bezos... maybe he'll buy the USPS and totally revamp it... talk about a thorough housecleaning... man, they'd be throwing about 99.9% of all USPS mngt out the door...
DB.Cooper
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UPS SurePost isn't too bad... FedEx SmartPost sucks @$$... USPS Parcel Post is like lightning compared to the FedEx SmartPost...
...and blasting music! "Alexa, play Highway Star by Deep Purple, and show quickest route to 183 Sycamore St."
He'll then offer Amazon emploees 10K, 3 months pay, and a low interest start up loan to franchise a Post Office.Hail... they've been *talking* about new vehicles for YEARS now... Bezos, thought about it for about 2 minutes, and then BOOM... new fleet of Mercedes-Benz vans... no wonder the USPS will lose out to Bezos... maybe he'll buy the USPS and totally revamp it... talk about a thorough housecleaning... man, they'd be throwing about 99.9% of all USPS mngt out the door...
Been there, done that, and once, I was walking down the drive way returning to my truck, as ups guy was walking up the drive way to deliver a package that would have fit in the box (I delivered 2 large parcels that wouldn’t fit in box, plus a 3rd that would have fit in box(if there’s a large and small parcel, I take both to the door)) and the ups guy had 1 that would have fit in box. Him and I chit chatted for a couple seconds about ?? amazon.... I had 3 packages for said address, he had 1. 2 of my 3 wouldn’t fit in box, his 1 could (his 1 and my small would have fit together in the box) yet, we both got to walk to the front door and waste our time to do each other’s job. Why am I delivering parcels to the door when fed ups are taking parcels to the door that we could have stuffed into the mail box fed ups can’t use.....
I don’t mind carrying a package to the door, until I see fed ups was there with a parcel I could have fit in the mail box.
Things that make you go “hhhhhmmmmmmmmmm”
gerl2
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This is where experience on the field come into play, why keep cranking up our prices on first class packages they will kill it eventually just like first class mail. They need to raise rates on door deliver and those oversize first class packages that don't fit in the mailbox.
Morty
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I read in a fox business article that UPS will be using cheaper labor for weekend delivery. It didn't say THEIR labor, just cheaper.I don't get why we're gonna do Sundays for UPS... is it so they can have Sundays off??? DOH!?!? What kinda crap is that???
And if Amazon was able to close the gap on delivering their own stuff by 15% in 2 years. Then mathematically, they should be delivering all their own stuff in 6 years. Just in time for rrecs to be implemented ?
I saw a Youtube bit from a fulfillment center worker. He said Amazon will hire anyone that walks in, and put them to work. Down the road some will get fired for drug tests, etc. What makes me skeptical that rural areas will ever get Amazon drivers is the lack of workforce. They'd have to find semi-competent folks that can pass drug tests and have OK driving record up front, for liability purposes.
Then, they probably don't want them to begin their routes anything over maybe 20 miles from a hub, so they are not paying for driving with no deliveries. So, my hypothesis is that truly rural areas (sigh) may always see USPS delivering Amazon. I haven't seen anyone from Amazon address this, but I don't imagine they care or want to deliver more than 50-75% of their own stuff. At some point overhead to reach Slapback, USA is just too high. USPS is will to do it for peanuts, and not pay carriers; that's hard for Amazon to turn down.
This could create another rift for rural carriers, as some will go back to more manageable levels, and some will just get worse and worse.
Then, they probably don't want them to begin their routes anything over maybe 20 miles from a hub, so they are not paying for driving with no deliveries. So, my hypothesis is that truly rural areas (sigh) may always see USPS delivering Amazon. I haven't seen anyone from Amazon address this, but I don't imagine they care or want to deliver more than 50-75% of their own stuff. At some point overhead to reach Slapback, USA is just too high. USPS is will to do it for peanuts, and not pay carriers; that's hard for Amazon to turn down.
This could create another rift for rural carriers, as some will go back to more manageable levels, and some will just get worse and worse.
charlie
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or.....If usps was run by folks with a modicum of business sense......yet to be proven...... Time to renegotiate the contract... Deliveries where amazon and usps both service the area the price remains... Areas without amazon delivery, the price goes up.... They can pay us properly or they can shell out big bucks to make their own system or they can abandon customers...usps has nothing to lose and everything to gain by playing a little hard ass for a change...
Morty
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Just about every town around me has a mom pop shipping/trucking biz.
All they have to do is add another few trucks to the fleet. Heck, the shipper in my town owns the contract on the HCR. One of their drivers runs it. He can run truck or do warehouse work after the route.
1 ultimaster van can hold all the amzn packages in my office. A big enough hub and they will travel. My ups buddy drives 40 miles south to pick up his package car. Then drives 70 miles north to start his route. And the fedex hub is 80 miles south of me.
USPS old sorting facility is available in my hometown. Amazon easily could lease it. Get 30 vans and service a 100 mile radius.
All they lack is the vans.
All they have to do is add another few trucks to the fleet. Heck, the shipper in my town owns the contract on the HCR. One of their drivers runs it. He can run truck or do warehouse work after the route.
1 ultimaster van can hold all the amzn packages in my office. A big enough hub and they will travel. My ups buddy drives 40 miles south to pick up his package car. Then drives 70 miles north to start his route. And the fedex hub is 80 miles south of me.
USPS old sorting facility is available in my hometown. Amazon easily could lease it. Get 30 vans and service a 100 mile radius.
All they lack is the vans.
I always kinda figured that Amazon would just buy out someone with an infrastructure already in place. Say DHL for example. They already have a fleet of planes and vehicles as well as buildings. All Amazon would have to really do is redo the wrap or paint on everything and there you have it. I know DHL is still pretty thriving overseas but we don't see much of them around here even in the larger cities.
I saw a semi trailer with 3 Amazon vans passing thru my town today. I can only hope they dropped them off somewhere near....Still, too good to be true.
Windindaface
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Since this is drifting to an AZON thread of deliveries.... I found 2 articles that mention our delivery for them, along with what percentage their parcel volume is for us.
qz.com
This article from 2018 mentions about $1 for each item.
This article from 2017 claims we deliver 40% of their stuff..... Analyst Claims the U.S. Postal Service Is Giving Amazon a Huge Subsidy
What the US post office really gets from Amazon
In an effort to establish the facts, UBS hosted a call with the former postmaster general, Patrick Donahoe.
qz.com
This article from 2017 claims we deliver 40% of their stuff..... Analyst Claims the U.S. Postal Service Is Giving Amazon a Huge Subsidy
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No surprise to me. With each Amazon box I handle I get a clear, definitive feeling of Chronic Subsidy Dysphoria. CSD is the now the leading cause of anxiety related illness within USPS.
Skierstmoritz
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And the people. You think these outfits will be able to gear up for the 3 month Xmas season and then tell the drivers in Jan, oops, no more work, see u in October. Don't forget, your ups buddy makes $38/hr as a package car driver. I would drive 40 miles for that! Plus free health insurance. No small outfit can come close to that. Where we are, there is no more available labor pool. Just saying
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