1st special count im nervous

[w2e2w2e]

Another thing my Office has to think about...we just go tht enew scanners and the new holsters we are required to use.
So on my walk to pick up scanner, I take the time at the scanner station to log into scanner, check the safety messages on the scanner, attach the holster to my belt and place scanner in the holster and then go about my first run of the day or picking up presort(flats) hot case items and DPS.

 

[btdtret]

w2e2w2e -- " what about if you do not have your edit book and have to walk over to the AMS office to request it? "

-- The Edit Book should be returned to the carrier if for no other reason than to check to see if the carrier's changes have been incorporated - CORRECTLY.

-- And where is the AMS office? In the same office or another building?

-- If you have get the Edit Book from another location other than your case, it should be a timed event. Something to address at the office - pre-count meeting.

- IF there has been a "Important Dates To Remember" sheet handed out, check for a date about two weeks before the start of Count. It should read: Mail Count Pre-Count Conferences MUST Be Completed For All Routes Being Counted. Which - unfortunately would have been 02 SEP 2020. If no pre-count meeting was held, note that on a memo about any disagreements you have about the count process.

-- Top of page 35 of the 2018 Mail Count Guide, regarding Edit Book Credit during count: in part: When AMS returns the Edit Book, the carrier will....

- Does the AMS keep all Edit Books in their office?

- IMHO it would be like the timed event to do "Search and Rescue" mission to recover your DPS trays should they be separated on different GPC's instead of in one location.

- From Step 4 ( E-4 ) Final revisions to the Rural Route AMS and Edit Book Q&A.

-#3 Q -- When the Edit Book is returned to the delivery unit, is it to be kept at the carrier's case so that changes can be entered daily?

A - Yes. The Edit Book is normally kept at the carrier's case for easy access. ( there is more, but that should suffice for manglement and the AMS person.

" I am getting cut literally the week before the count.. "

-- What the...? Didn't manglement think there would a count or special count this year?

" Either way I will get credit for that DPS both coming into my route and leaving my route to the hot case as a misthrow...right?? "

-- That is correct. Don't forget the misthrown parcels as I doubt the clerks will be ready for the change.

-- Better alert your Assistant District Representative to your situation as I doubt manglement will honor the part there nothing taken out of DPS will be deducted from the DPS EOR!

-- Be sure to walk at a safe speed in the office on your many trips to the Hot Case and 3M case. Other carriers may not be watching out for you in their actions and probably there will be parcels all over the workfloor.

-- Good luck with count. It will determine your pay for the next year - or until RRECS is implemented, so no pressure!

 

[RDruckus]

You get riffle time even if you case DPS.
If you have DPS, you have riffle time.

Riffling establishes that each tray is yours, and that there are no large "sweeping" errors (from the plant) contained in the trays.
It includes the time it takes to move each tray to get it into a position so that you can examine it without strain.

Our DPS is on APCs at a distance from our case. They time us from leaving the case to get it with a u-cart, during actual "riffle" then taking it back to our cases. The riffle time and transport time for DPS are two separate entries in column 17.

$$$$$$$$$$ please note:
My route has several businesses that mail out certified pieces with the tear off section of the green receipt still attached. I get that part date stamped on return to the office and deliver it the next day.
I get credit for each certified I do this with, just as if I applied all the postage and barcode myself. It is entered under the column for Certifieds Accepted, in the afternoon.
I also am credited for one piece of raw mail for the little date stamped receipt I deliver back the next day.

 

[Windindaface]

w2e2w2e typed.... BTDRET ---what about if you do not have your edit book and have to walk over to the AMS office to request it? Shoudl that count as a timed event as it should be at my case?

Plus footage credit to the office if over 50 feet?

If you were hacked before count your book should have been submitted prior to count and in your hands by now.

I had a PM who refused my dismount credit on count and servicing the location because they were closing in 2 months. Guess what? No sign off and a grievance won.

 

[magnolia72]

How are we given credit for certified letters now that we no longer have to sign for them as an accountable? With the certs coming in the DPS now, I'll lose a lot of credit not having to sign for those anymore.

 

[Gotrope]

Any accountable piece is still recorded under accountable column. Don't forget the time to sign for gas card or only arrow key is a timed function. The gas card at some locations has been listed as simply an accountable single piece. Make someone sign your 3821 at the end of the day. That's 12 minutes a week.
If DPS trays are commingled between routes, you get timed to separate those trays from yours.

 

[ctrural2]

How are we given credit for certified letters now that we no longer have to sign for them as an accountable? With the certs coming in the DPS now, I'll lose a lot of credit not having to sign for those anymore.

If certs are in DPS, don't you bring them to the attention of the person recording accountables? Why don't you sign for certs? We still have to go to the door with them, even though we are signing for the customer(with their OK). If nobody home, still leave 3849.

 

[Travelingmailman]

Good info 3821 for arrow key! Excellent!

 

[neciat]

For the first timers, other newbies as well as others that have either never experienced a count or only did a count a day or two while serving as an RCA at the time, here are a few pics of a count ruler. You'll see the 6 1/8 " for letters, the 5" for parcels, the 3/8" for catalogs, the 1 9/16" for parcels and the 18" for parcels.

 

[FEDUP Amazombie]

A route in the office I worked at was told they would be counted. Well, now they have been told they will not be counted. How is this possible?

 

[Itstillfun]

A route in the office I worked at was told they would be counted. Well, now they have been told they will not be counted. How is this possible?

Shh it's a secret

 

[RDruckus]

A route in the office I worked at was told they would be counted. Well, now they have been told they will not be counted. How is this possible?

Was this established during the precount conference?
All accountable items are included in the count, (and they are high-value items.)
Get their status straightened out now. Involve your union District Rep (DR) if you have to.

 

[magnolia72]

If certs are in DPS, don't you bring them to the attention of the person recording accountables? Why don't you sign for certs? We still have to go to the door with them, even though we are signing for the customer(with their OK). If nobody home, still leave 3849.

I'm referring to signing for them in the AM. I take my DPS to the street and since the last count, the certs for my route having been coming in the DPS.

 

[oi veh.]

Have your PM hook your scanner to the printer. You can print our accountable report from there. Or you can have management check scanner. All accountables will be under A report. Those not delivered will be under mail entries.

don't lose your credit. And also make sure to fill out your 3821.

Putting certs in DPS was a very dumb decision.

 

[magnolia72]

Have your PM hook your scanner to the printer. You can print our accountable report from there. Or you can have management check scanner. All accountables will be under A report. Those not delivered will be under mail entries.

don't lose your credit. And also make sure to fill out your 3821.

Putting certs in DPS was a very dumb decision.

I do plan to case EVERYTHING for those 12 days. I have no trust for the PM at the office, and I will be counting everything myself.

 

[asmcn61]

I do plan to case EVERYTHING for those 12 days. I have no trust for the PM at the office, and I will be counting everything myself.

I was told a few weeks ago that my route will be counted. Count starts on Thursday. I have yet to be informed about having a pre-count conference. Does anyone know what the time frame is for pre-count conference. If it is not done, could the count be canceled for me? Not sure that I want to take a chance on this count.

 

[btdtret]

asmcn61 -- " I was told a few weeks ago that my route will be counted. Count starts on Thursday. I have yet to be informed about having a pre-count conference. Does anyone know what the time frame is for pre-count conference. "

-- "Normally" the office pre-count conference has to be conducted 2 weeks prior to the start of the mail count.

-- At least that is according to the Important Dates to Remember sheets from 2015, 2016, and 2018.

-- Once the pre-count conference has be done, supposedly manglement can not make any changes to operating procedures.

-- Recommend you contact your Assistant District Representative about no pre-count conference.

-- However, it probably it won't be enough to cancel the mail count.

 

[RDruckus]

I was told a few weeks ago that my route will be counted. Count starts on Thursday. I have yet to be informed about having a pre-count conference. Does anyone know what the time frame is for pre-count conference. If it is not done, could the count be canceled for me? Not sure that I want to take a chance on this count.

Keep a list of everything you disagree with for the duration of the count.
No precount conference (or a late one) should be at the top of that list.

Use the information on the list when you refuse to sign off on the count results. Every reason should be included in your explanation letter.

 

[Windindaface]

As and old timer and counts...

You have to understand they are trying to take as much credit away from you as possible while you are trying to keep or gain more. A natural turf war that both parties have a vested interest in.

Outside of office counters seem to be more understanding to the issues you bring up. A minute might not seem long but when it comes to a routes EVAL it means a lot. A minute can lead to route status change.

I've been lucky on counts for attendance. I have worked all count days in exchange for X days given back to the RCA the week after count. As a REG you have the rite to show up on your day off to observe and inform your RCA of correct procedure,

 

[Tank]

A thought just crossed my mind. During the middle of Covid a brand new assisted living / Senior housing complex opened up. One of the buildings is an apartment building complete with cluster boxes located inside on the bottom floor. So here's thing, because of Covid they don't want vistors, such as myself, spending anymore time in the building than necessary. Therefore I leave mail for all the recipients at the reception desk. Had Covid not been a thing I would be delivering to 20+ mail boxes, but because of Covid I make one delivery to one desk. My concern is that I'm not going to get credit for the 20+ individual recipients.