Documentary about USPS

[mailmanusa]

Maybe old timers should admit that the conditions many of us faced or face are much different from what many RCAs nowadays face... you and I sitting at the top pay of Table 1, racking up a day of AL every pay period, and a day of SL every other pay period... with EMA I made well over $100k all of my final years... and in the end, it wasn't worth it to me to keep on keeping on... but it all comes down to what your values are and what is most important to you... if things were really great for ALL employees at USPS we wouldn't be seeing such shortages in RCAs in many places... to deny this, is to deny reality... also, imo, to disregard all of the evidence about toxic work environments at the USPS, is also denying reality... the employee surveys, the suicides, the murders, the harassment, the grievances, etc., etc... this is bigger than just a bunch of crybabies, or just ole DB's opinion... at least that's how I see it...

I respect your opinion

 

[DB.Cooper]

I didn’t say Gallup or some Phd was full of anything. I simply didn’t waste my time on a 69% accuracy polling outfit to get my views verified. All jobs have their poo. You aren’t the first person to point out anything to me, you assume a lot. Not sure what you’re trying to convince me of here exactly. Something about a buzz work hyperbole.

Are the facts of employee surveys, or suicide rates quadrupling just "hyperbole" and really mean nothing.... I'm not trying to convince you of anything, other than, there are other facts out there... and other realities beyond just yours...

 

[DB.Cooper]

I respect your opinion

Hey, it's a discussion board... you started this thread/conversation, I just participated in it and said what I thought... I understand not everybody agrees with me, or thinks like I do... I'm fine with that.... some can believe that all of the problems at USPS are created by whiny crybabies... I personally don't believe that, but others are free to believe what they want...

 

[mailmanusa]

I think if you check all industries work force you’ll find that the younger generations of workers as a whole don’t endure hardship as well as the older. Many things have changed since we old dogs were young.

Another thing I’d like to mention is this. The post office is the post office in every town across the nation. So when problems pop up, it piles on to the reputation in a seemingly large scale. We’re the same brand, everywhere!

Other industries have problems too. But when they are broken up in to many smaller entities, the reputation for trouble doesn’t pile up.

The mail delivery industry is not the only industry with problems. If you compare mail delivery with other industries as a whole, you might find the post office on the list, but they’re not at the top of the list.

 

[mailmanusa]

Here you go, have a look at workplace violence by industry statistics from Bureau of Labor

workplace-violence-2021-2022.htm

www.bls.gov

 

[DB.Cooper]

Unmasking the Toxic Work Environment at the United States Postal Service

 

[DB.Cooper]

Here you go, have a look at workplace violence by industry statistics from Bureau of Labor

workplace-violence-2021-2022.htm

www.bls.gov

Between being robbed, dog bites, traffic accidents, workplace violence... some contend USPS is a fairly dangerous job...

The U.S. Postal Service reports more severe injuries than any other employer, according to OSHA.

The USPS is an extremely dangerous place to work

 

[Rt2mailman]

THIS ^^^^^^^^^^

I am in 1 route office.

Not so much those issues but getting people to work my X days after pushing 18 months without a sub.

Constantly getting those people pulled back all the time. Having one trying to not work route on day sister was getting married. I just about went bananas. I was just like you can't just I'm not working anymore. I need off. I mean when I take off a weekend, IT IS BECAUSE I NEED IT OFF LEGIT!! Not just and giggles I want my day off.

It's just crazy how much people won't work elsewhere yet I have my route so easy a caveman could do it. Just needs his own POV

Work with your steward to file grievances on your problematic pm. Changing start times has to be for a logistical reason, not retaliation. His job is to hire, force him to do his job by filing a 120 day letter requiring an Rca to be hired. After surpassing 120 days your new hire sub will be hired as a career PTF and make $24/hour, easier to find those people. When you do those things he will find you a sub.

 

[Old Fart]

FYI.....my corporate training, for one job I held was data interpretation and analysis department.

I can produce a poll delivering whatever result you pay for and you'll never figure out how I tweaked it to give you the results you want.

 

[ATCBigE]

Work with your steward to file grievances on your problematic pm. Changing start times has to be for a logistical reason, not retaliation. His job is to hire, force him to do his job by filing a 120 day letter requiring an Rca to be hired. After surpassing 120 days your new hire sub will be hired as a career PTF and make $24/hour, easier to find those people. When you do those things he will find you a sub.

They won't find sub in my area. Trust me .

I think you meant to comment to other person.

#1 What good will 120 day letter do for me in 1 route office???? Nothing as long as they are posting my job which my job has been at least 50 times if not more than that in 17 months?

#2 I can't get PTF in 1 route office.

My PM isn't problematic. My issue is we get others to work my X days and then one of their regulars will call off in their home office and bam they have to go back and I have to work.

 

[DB.Cooper]

FYI.....my corporate training, for one job I held was data interpretation and analysis department.

I can produce a poll delivering whatever result you pay for and you'll never figure out how I tweaked it to give you the results you want.

What's that little ditty... figures don't lie, but liars figure...

 

[Wilco183]

FYI.....my corporate training, for one job I held was data interpretation and analysis department.

I can produce a poll delivering whatever result you pay for and you'll never figure out how I tweaked it to give you the results you want.

"9 out of 10 dentists recommend".

 

[Rt2mailman]

They won't find sub in my area. Trust me .

I think you meant to comment to other person.

#1 What good will 120 day letter do for me in 1 route office???? Nothing as long as they are posting my job which my job has been at least 50 times if not more than that in 17 months?

#2 I can't get PTF in 1 route office.

My PM isn't problematic. My issue is we get others to work my X days and then one of their regulars will call off in their home office and bam they have to go back and I have to work.

Your pm is problematic if you have no rca.
Rca's can be hired. The Usps site doesn't work, and hasn't worked for years. Most likely your city starts with a letter further down in the alphabet, that means it is not on the first page of the "We're hiring" spot of the website, and it isn't clear that there are more pages of cities to scroll down to. Your pm is REQUIRED, as per our last contract, to place a higher waged PTF in as your sub if none can be hired after 120 days.
Again, the Usps website doesn't work, hardly anyone looks for jobs there. Monster, Ziprecruiter, Indeed, workforce, and 2-3 other hiring sites are being used by pms that really want to hire.
Many pms don't want to spend the money to do so, and that's why they "CAN'T" hire.

 

[DohnJalton]

I see a lot of cry babies making their own problems.

That is really easy to say when you made and make a minimum of $100,000 more than people being hired today. I bet you were making 3-4x minimum wage when you were hired, meanwhile RCAs being hired today are making maybe 30% more than any other places hiring.

 

[mailmanusa]

That is really easy to say when you made and make a minimum of $100,000 more than people being hired today. I bet you were making 3-4x minimum wage when you were hired, meanwhile RCAs being hired today are making maybe 30% more than any other places hiring.

You make a good point here. Although when I first started I was making less than $10 per hour with no benefits. The regulars at the time were making multiples more than me. Weren’t they?

Oh, and by the way, some of the cry babies are regular carriers making the same money that I do.

 

[mailmanusa]

When it comes to RCA’s being under stress, it’s my observation that a big part of that is the regular carriers constantly criticizing them.

 

[DohnJalton]

Although when I first started I was making less than $10 per hour with no benefits.

So you were making almost 3x minimum wage, RCAs still get zero benefits. But on top of that they are $20 an hour when it is easy to find places paying $15 for working a cash register.

Now lets check out inflation.
Whoa, $25 an hour is still better than what an RCA is making now.

When it comes to RCA’s being under stress, it’s my observation that a big part of that is the regular carriers constantly criticizing them.

Sounds like you have a garbage office.

Oh, and by the way, some of the cry babies are regular carriers making the same money that I do.

Unless they were hired after the table changes in the 90s and 00s. Then they made a minimum of $100,000 less than you, in the same amount of time.

 

[mailmanusa]

So a person is an ahole because of how much money they make. Just give them more money and they are not longer an ahole? Good luck with that

 

[DB.Cooper]

When it comes to RCA’s being under stress, it’s my observation that a big part of that is the regular carriers constantly criticizing them.

You said you were a union stewy at one time... not sure if that's the reason, or not... but, I've noticed there are a lot of NRLCA peeps who tend to want to say everything is the carriers' fault... it's almost as tho they're in bed with and on the side of USPS mngt... So far, in this thread, that seems to be your main theme... I really haven't heard you criticizing USPS mngt or the $#!++y work environment... everything seems to be the fault of whiny, crying, criticizing carriers.... it's all those damned carriers' fault... is that pretty much it in a nutshell??? At your office, are you the guy that's always kissing mngt's butt, and feeding any little bit of dirt you can on fellow carriers to mngt???? I've seen some like that in my day... some like to call them @$$ kissers, rats, snitches, etc...

 

[DB.Cooper]

You make a good point here. Although when I first started I was making less than $10 per hour with no benefits. The regulars at the time were making multiples more than me. Weren’t they?

Oh, and by the way, some of the cry babies are regular carriers making the same money that I do.

Come on, man... at least once.... tell me a story about something that's NOT the carriers' fault...