Rt2mailman
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There is supposed to be a union rep. (Trained in the mapping process) at each mapping. I haven't heard that it would be done by your pm, unless they were trained in that process.
Originally, it was the carrier, the ADR (or someone chosen by the DR) and a PM (not necessarily yours). That was taking too long. So now it's going to be your PM and you. And yes on the 2 weeks.
This is going to be a nightmare, considering the general quality of PMs and the amount of carriers who have no idea what's coming their way (because they are willfully ignorant).
I have to check my notes...will be back later with correction, if necessary.There is supposed to be a union rep. (Trained in the mapping process) at each mapping. I haven't heard that it would be done by your pm, unless they were trained in that process.
Yes, it does take 2 weeks for them to "track" you. Because things change everyday on the route, we have deviations, which we have to enter in our scanners, begin and end of deviations, we have all kinds of different obstacles everyday, especially on a Rural route. They now have added 5 more extra prompts to our scanners a few days ago. This is crazy, even in the office we have to scan mail pieces and packages that have different delivery instructions, to either stop the clock or to delay delivery, and hand offs to the Po Boxes. They preach safety, how safe is it when you are focusing on the road, and the mail, and worried about if you missed a scan, trying to remember all of the scans, or if I forgot to do a "rural reach" prompt when a customer meets me at the mail box and I am idle for a few mins, I have to justify every min. And with all of the Amazon now, seems that is first priority and not the mail or USPS parcels anymore. It really showed during the Christmas time period, and before. We started getting hammered with Amazon in early Sept.. Then the dispatch was late EVERYDAY, some days we wouldn't get any mail until around 930 or 10 am, so we ran Amazon Pkgs, them came back in when the mail arrived, and absolutely NO OVERTIME. If I was going over on my hrs, I had to be back to the office by the end of my 40 hrs. IE: I had to be back and clocked out by 1200 hrs. on that day was sent home, had to take the next day off because I was still in that pay week, and report back on Saturday beginning the new pay period. Didn't matter that the days before I'd work 10 or 12 hrs a day and deliver in the dark in the rain and fog and couldn't even see the next mailbox coming up. There are No street lights out in the country, when you have your inside light on trying to gather the mail and parcels for that box, and if you had a dismount for that box pulling up in someones driveway in the dark, and walk up to deliver a pkg in the dark sucks, no porch light etc, and some people don't appreciate someone pulling up in their driveway after dark, especially in the "sticks". I have mapped my route before, as I said before, it was all screwed up because they tracked a sub for one day, that wasn't familiar with my route, and didn't follow the line of travel, and there was no way to correct it once it was in the computer. But now that they are doing a 2 week track, they see how different the mileage and line of travel differs from 2 years ago. I just can't see how this is ever going to be fair or accurate to any of us. Now the Postal Task Force is trying to implement a deal with the postal service for Fed-Ex and UPS to be able to use our mailboxes for small parcels that normally they take to the door to eliminate some of their dismounts and leave them in our mailboxes. Last time I checked USPS personnel and the customer are the only ones to have access to those boxes. I bet if this is implemented the Postal inspection service is going to be VERY busy, looking for missing mail. Hello, we deliver mail and parcels they don't, and we are responsible for that mail, and if I get to a mailbox and there is no room in that box for the mail or a parcel that will fit in the box because Fed-Ex and UPS have crammed their parcels in there, and I have to dismount to convenient them using our boxes, I'm gonna be one Pissed off Rural Carrier. Let them put their own boxes up for their crap ! Ok, VENT OVER !!I'm curious about the whole mapping "thing". How many people does it take to " map " a route? How computer literate do you have to be to map? Are there " mapping teams " that go around to various offices to do the mapping? Can it be done in house? With over 70,000 rural routes this seems, imho, to be a very time consuming task. I thought I read somewhere that to be successfully mapped you had to run the route the same way fo 2 weeks? Anyone care to enlighten me?
Yes, there has to be a Union Rep from both side present at the time of mapping, and trained on mapping, observing the carrier inputting the data into the computer, last time I did that it took me about 5 hrs.I have to check my notes...will be back later with correction, if necessary.
There is this:
First, each area will be required to send their rural analyst or designee to an RSD refresher training in Memphis, TN on January 15-16, 2019. This will be a train the trainer session as was done in the initial roll-out. The areas will then be responsible for training the districts and in turn the districts will train the units on mapping and recertification of the study routes. April 1, 2019 is the expected competition date for study routes to be recertified in RSD.
Update on Rural Route Evaluated Compensation System (RRECS)
Since the June 23rd, 2018 final report of the panel for the Rural Route Evaluated Compensation System (RRECS) the postal service has had teams developing the software and systems to support RRECS. As we movewww.ruralinfo.net
Both sides? What other union besides ours?
No where in the linked update does it say who else besides "the unit" and the carrier would be present.
But I was quite sure that I had heard what I wrote a few weeks ago...but can't be certain. lol Have been gone all day and have not taken the time to look for and read my notes.
You are in a study office, yes? Have you mapped again? If so, who was there? If not, then please let us know who is when you do!
I know, I agree, this just came out of the blue ! I'm sure they have a ton of issues they have no knowledge how to solve them. I know there are several spots on a route that you can not track the carrier. The mountains etc in this area the satellite can't communicate with our scannersNot a positive sign for implementation if the mapping is on hold . Could it be that the USPS hasn't solved the band width problem and isn't in a hurry to do so?
if they can boot those out, what about in snow,mud,ice, country where the carrier is taking for ever? or a carrier who is not comfortable fingering the mail while driving in said conditions? guilty as charged while driving and fingering the mail, saves me at least an hour, and hate it when the roads are bad, i like getting done before dark.So here's a question. If your office mapping is delayed past the April 1st deadline, will your office be booted out of the RRECS test, or will the entire test be delayed because some offices are unable to participate? Any guesses?
A question? If the scanners are supposedly so good at tracking our exact location at all times and the PMs have programs(DIMS or RIMS or whatever it is called), what is the big deal about this mapping? I know they can already call up the exact Google map that shows what address you were at when you delivered a package, along with the time. And this is days later when the customer comes in to complain they did not get said package(but didn't bother to look on their front porch for it.) This mapping shouldn't be that big of a deal if the scanners are as good as they say for exact GPS distance and location. Could it be that the scanners are not as accurate as purported to be?
Interesting. Especially the clerk part. Somethng sounds jacked up.union rep of "pm" clerks etc. are supposed to be present during mapping.
or a carrier who is not comfortable fingering the mail while driving in said conditions? guilty as charged while driving and fingering the mail, saves me at least an hour, and hate it when the roads are bad, i like getting done before dark.