Pickup counts (first class vs priority) and backward mail

[w2e2w2e]

So I have a UPS store on my route.
We have to scan and sort these items.
My question is how do we get credit for pickups again?
ONly priority or over two pounds?
or anything from a UPS store?

What about a scheduled pickup where you have a pickup slip?
they are all first class items, maybe 1 priority.

I get so many pickups bot most of them are first class or returns so I do not want to get screwed over on these items.

also, a backwards piece of mail in the DPS is counted the same as an out of sequence letter as you have to physically remove it and turn it around to see the address?

Thank you all for your help during this upcoming craziness for the next few weeks!!!!

 

[w2e2w2e]

Different question: during count if the clerks misthrow another routes parcels into your hamper, you still get the credti for them coming to your route correct?
Do you also get the credit for taking them to the hot case, or just the extra time it takes to walk there I guess??

 

[Windindaface]

So I have a UPS store on my route.
We have to scan and sort these items.

What do mean by sort? In office or at UPS store? Please clarify.

Anything you pick is credited as out going. The 2lbs pertains to parcel credit P/U.

Parcel pick up requests are 90 secs. Plus items needing scans. The sheet says 5 scan limit. If you have been scanning more than 5 for 1 location due to decree by management, Those scans over the 5 limit should be credited to you. Cite past practice. Any items under the 5 are also credited as scans done.

Last I knew to Anyone? ... Someone leaving a note in box or a call to the office for item on porch picked up by you also qualified as a P/U request.

Had a window licker put in 3 days in a row for a pick up. Went there for 3 days and never picked it up. It was a UPS return label. They called and I explained the UPS sticker.

 

[RDruckus]

Sorting outgoing mail is a timed event after the first two separations.
(So, you dump letters and mretered flats, for example, without being timed.
All additional items you are timed to put in their proper places.)

Which two separations are "free" should have been determined at the pre-count conference.

 

[neciat]

Just letting you know that as "wind" mentioned, you do get credit for EACH scan on what you pick up. That's 18 seconds for EACH scan. So, you can roughly figure every 3 will equal one minute.

 

[Gotrope]

3M mail is credited under dps error markups. 1 credit per separation. You get one credit for each of the 3m and secondary credit for any individual mark-up ( utf, nsn,etc). All credits should be handled as if you took directly to street as you receive ZERO office time for casing or pulling down dps.

Parcel pick-ups are credited with or without request barcode. If you must leave the vehicle to pickup- you get credit. The class of mail being picked up no longer matters. Usps stopped requiring one premium piece in shipments 5 years ago. Acceptance scan on parcels should be up to 6 per stop. Most PM's will side with you to scan all pieces when you explain to them, The FIRST OFFICE To SCAN as ACCEPTED WILL RECEIVE OFFICE REVENUE HOURS CREDIT ( as in more more back office clerk hours to use). They can send all those hours to the plant or they keep them for parcel distribution.

Anything you touch during a count needs to be credited. Misthrown mail, parcels placed on floor and not into parcel hamper by clerks, any parcels thrown to a secondary sortation area are timed to retrieve. Any equipment you must move out of your way is timed. Anything more than a single parcel hamper retrievel is timed. If you must return rolling equipment to office after loading, that is timed. Don't let anyone tell you there is a 15 minu max on loading- there isn't. It 4239 simply states to explain why it was longer then 15 minutes. Any keyed entry gates? Timed. Any security stops you must wait for on route? Timed. Additional footage for authorized dismounts is appropriate on high volume days that requires more trips to transport mail.
Don't be bamboozled, it's your paycheck and possibly days off at stake.??⚰

 

[w2e2w2e]

I am sure management will not even stop the clock when timing my sorting for the letters and flats.

I am just asking as the count guide has the list of Priority items, returned items and such but does not list First class items...I get about 40 first class chunkies a day that are under 2 lbs. I am just trying to figure out do I only get a scan credit or do I get a parcel credit for it also. Sometimes the way we do things are sooooooo danged confusing, like it was made deliberately hard to understand.

My thinking is if ther do not give me any credit for it whatsoever, then why do I scan and sort it?

AS to the more than 5 pieces, I have no problems with the scanning of the items, just want to get the credit I deserve for the work I do.

 

[Gotrope]

9 seconds per prepaid pick-up request piece + additional 18 seconds per tracking barcode per piece.
Example: 90 seconds for prepaid pick-up stop.
+ 9seconds x 70 chunkiest( sprs)
+ 18 seconds x 70 usps tracking barcodes
+ Sortation at office time 4 minutes
=37 minutes

 

[w2e2w2e]

Gotrope...
so would you happen to know which columns that woudl be recorded in if they are first class items under 2 lbs???.
90 seconds for prepaid pick-up stop. ---goes in column 21
+ 9seconds x 70 chunkiest( sprs) ---Where does this part get recorded???
+ 18 seconds x 70 usps tracking barcodes ---goes in column 15


And thank you, your explanation is awesome as I am going thru the 2018 count guide.

 

[Gotrope]

Customer request Prepaid items go into column 22. As do items over 2 pounds with no customer request, like return ship labels. Items the carrier applies postage to ( other than normal letters and small flats) are a column 23 for 4 minutes each.

A carrier pickup request with one item is worth 1: 39 . A " how much to mail this and here's ten dollars for postage" is 4 minutes. Spoil your customers?
One more thing, if you collect certified with mailing receipt or express mail it should be timed during culling time to walk to the window section and round date. Express are to be entered into window unit tracking system.
If you must wait for a clearance clerk at least once a week...get timed to do so or timed to find a mgr to sign you off.

 

[Gotrope]

Btw, I'm totally encouraged you are asking questions about your pay. So few bother and trust what management gives them. Most are severally, unpleasantly surprised. Good job.

 

[w2e2w2e]

Thanks!,,,
We have never done the certified round date thing, so I will not cheat and do it now, but I do pick up about 5-10 a day from my UPS store.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm...maybe I should do this........

 

[Gotrope]

The rural craft has no concept of SPRs (small or rollable parcels). We have letters. We have flats. And we have parcels. Each has dimensional qualifications. So what you and I see as a parcel, and the clerk and city craft and management generally see as a parcel can be a scannable or non scannable item and not fit in the box and still be a “a flat” at count.

I was responding to prepaid pickups. Any pieces retrieved on a prepaid pickup request are considered an 9 second item. Delivery items are officially called small parcels and rolls but I understand what you mean. Most offices don't call anything by official names. Around these parts I've heard them called babies, chunkies, tinies, boxables, case-ables, pills, paquets, etc. For count only we define parcels by dimensions. I think that's a crying shame but, I didn't make the rules.

 

[gotstamps]

I was responding to prepaid pickups. Any pieces retrieved on a prepaid pickup request are considered an 9 second item. Delivery items are officially called small parcels and rolls but I understand what you mean. Most offices don't call anything by official names. Around these parts I've heard them called babies, chunkies, tinies, boxables, case-ables, pills, paquets, etc. For count only we define parcels by dimensions. I think that's a crying shame but, I didn't make the rules.

The light weight items that are ”picked up” & not Priority count the same as a letter/flat collected plus the scan.

 

[Gotrope]

The light weight items that are ”picked up” & not Priority count the same as a letter/flat collected plus the scan.

Items do not need to be priority to count under prepaid pickup items. Check with national. Pretty sure the entire western US wouldn't be getting credit if only priority counted. Even standard t-shirts count.

 

[Old Fart]

Items do not need to be priority to count under prepaid pickup items. Check with national. Pretty sure the entire western US wouldn't be getting credit if only priority counted. Even standard t-shirts count.

Used to be priority, now class of service is immaterial.

 

[Old Fart]

Customer request Prepaid items go into column 22. As do items over 2 pounds with no customer request, like return ship labels. Items the carrier applies postage to ( other than normal letters and small flats) are a column 23 for 4 minutes each.

A carrier pickup request with one item is worth 1: 39 . A " how much to mail this and here's ten dollars for postage" is 4 minutes. Spoil your customers?
One more thing, if you collect certified with mailing receipt or express mail it should be timed during culling time to walk to the window section and round date. Express are to be entered into window unit tracking system.
If you must wait for a clearance clerk at least once a week...get timed to do so or timed to find a mgr to sign you off.

(If your UPS store provides certifieds and you pick them up daily, remember to get credit for getting in line and having each one round dated, also in the book for return to the store.)

 

[Old Fart]

3M mail is credited under dps error markups. 1 credit per separation. You get one credit for each of the 3m and secondary credit for any individual mark-up ( utf, nsn,etc). All credits should be handled as if you took directly to street as you receive ZERO office time for casing or pulling down dps.

Parcel pick-ups are credited with or without request barcode. If you must leave the vehicle to pickup- you get credit. The class of mail being picked up no longer matters. Usps stopped requiring one premium piece in shipments 5 years ago. Acceptance scan on parcels should be up to 6 per stop. Most PM's will side with you to scan all pieces when you explain to them, The FIRST OFFICE To SCAN as ACCEPTED WILL RECEIVE OFFICE REVENUE HOURS CREDIT ( as in more more back office clerk hours to use). They can send all those hours to the plant or they keep them for parcel distribution.

Anything you touch during a count needs to be credited. Misthrown mail, parcels placed on floor and not into parcel hamper by clerks, any parcels thrown to a secondary sortation area are timed to retrieve. Any equipment you must move out of your way is timed. Anything more than a single parcel hamper retrievel is timed. If you must return rolling equipment to office after loading, that is timed. Don't let anyone tell you there is a 15 minu max on loading- there isn't. It 4239 simply states to explain why it was longer then 15 minutes. Any keyed entry gates? Timed. Any security stops you must wait for on route? Timed. Additional footage for authorized dismounts is appropriate on high volume days that requires more trips to transport mail.
Don't be bamboozled, it's your paycheck and possibly days off at stake.??⚰

Those being counted, READ THE ABOVE TWICE. Remember, EVERYTHING you touch or do gets TIMED or RECORDED as an event. Do NOT take any shortcuts, or walk faster than normal. If CBU or routine pickups require multiple trips, be sure to get credit for those multiples. "Go" is correct in that there are NO time limits, only over certain times explanation is required (and it's minor, obscure, and it's almost always approved)

 

[gotstamps]

Items do not need to be priority to count under prepaid pickup items. Check with national. Pretty sure the entire western US wouldn't be getting credit if only priority counted. Even standard t-shirts count.

Ok, let me correct that then... anything lighter than 2 lbs is counted with letters & flats collected. Last count I recall Priority didn’t matter the weight to be counted as a parcel collected in box 22.

****CORRECTION****
Look up in the 2020 mail count guide on the Union website...
*Express, Priority, & Return Service— count in column 22 REGARDLESS OF WEIGHT
*Other Prepaid Parcels OVER 2 lbs count in column 22
*”Other mail pieces accepted/collected..., such as obvious letters and flat-size mail, including small parcels, will be credited in Column 20, Letters and Flats Collected”

 

[Gotrope]

Well, what can I say, we are pretty militant about getting our due out here?