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POLL: New Contract VOTE!!!!

How will you VOTE on this contract???

  • I will vote YES for this contract!!!

    Votes: 34 26.0%
  • I will vote NO for this contract!!!!

    Votes: 89 67.9%
  • I'm saving 58 cents, won't even vote....

    Votes: 8 6.1%

  • Total voters
    131
Knowing usps they would offer the 25k for rcas to resign before giving regs It. then I could use your favorite saying DB. 😂
I guess I just need to get on the delusional train with some others here... sure, they'll give us bigger raises than NALC & APWU... and it's all because the NRLCA is so much better of a union... we'll be indebted to their great negotiating skills... lol... :unsure: 🤣 🤷‍♂️ o_O 🤪
 
Which one's???? :unsure:
There were a few more " when required to work " conditions in the new contract. Things like giving us the ability to be mandated to work a holiday. And adding the annual day to the option to decrease your pay. Or the bypassing the rdwl at mgmt whim to force some poor rca in from another office. I can definitely see that negatively affecting my office. I don't care about the rdwl money, but forcing our rcas to crappy understaffed offices will make them reevaluate working here. Some have been forced already to carry city routes at night in unfamiliar cities. They all said they would quit if that is the future.
The annual is going to be a big thing in this area. You have to put leave in well in advance to attempt any off time for Dr appointments, not just vacation.
The lack of step increases is really pissing off some of the more experienced rcas with years in and still expected to bail out every new person for the same pay.
There are others but, taco time.
 
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Which one's???? :unsure:
There were a few more " when required to work " conditions in the new contract. Things like giving us the ability to be mandated to work a holiday. And adding the annual day to the option to decrease your pay. Or the bypassing the rdwl at mgmt whim to force some poor rca in from another office. I can definitely see that negatively affecting my office. I don't care about the rdwl money, but for ing our rcas to crappy understaffed offices will make them reevaluate working here. Some have been forced already to carry city routes at night in unfamiliar cities. They all said they would quit if that is the future.
The annual is going to be a big thing in this area. You have to put leave in well in advance to attempt any off time for Dr appointments, not just vacation.
The lack of step increases is really pissing off some of the more experienced rcas with years in and still expected to bail out every new person for the same pay.
There are others but, taco time.
I think it should be put in writing that in the event RRECS fails in any way, we immediately revert back to being paid what our salary was before RRECS kicked in until they get it fixed., with a mail count if they so choose., if route data disappears especially. Some type of guarantee that's good. #2 The wording 'Reg Carriers REQUIRED to work their holiday' needs to go by-by. There should be no requiring a REG to work their holiday, a benefit already negotiated. #3 Where is the compensation for all the extra scanning we'll be doing? Plus 10% for the delays on the scanner. Why should that be done for free when we'll already be losing. #4 I want a video shown to us how it's possible to case a full tray of DPS in 5 minutes. Prove it to us, i want to see it. Because that is just simply wrong. How is that being paid fairly? Old mail counts gave all MMM and any mail you couldn't deliver that day credit in the raw letters to, because of handling it twice. Like holds, box down, box blocked. There's a lot of little things we're losing credit for here, so shouldn't we at least be paid fairly for the casing of the DPS?
 
Would the 25+ PTF positions help between those offices potentially?
It's unknown. We have formula offices that had ptf positions but those original ptfs went career or quit. No additional ones had been required to maintain the formula status of an office. That is a change in the new contract. Anyone who works in a formula office knows they suck. You can't get 2 days off in a row, the rcas can actually work more hours than a PTF, the holiday scheduling is a nightmare and mgmt becomes a revolving door because it's hard to manage a constantly short office. Which ends up in zero paychecks, frequently because of poor mgmt skills. Then the new hires quit because they can't get paid. It's a never ending nightmare. I would happily vote yes if they simply put in a procedure to remove an office from formula. Currently, none exits.
 
I think it should be put in writing that in the event RRECS fails in any way, we immediately revert back to being paid what our salary was before RRECS kicked in until they get it fixed., with a mail count if they so choose., if route data disappears especially. Some type of guarantee that's good. #2 The wording 'Reg Carriers REQUIRED to work their holiday' needs to go by-by. There should be no requiring a REG to work their holiday, a benefit already negotiated. #3 Where is the compensation for all the extra scanning we'll be doing? Plus 10% for the delays on the scanner. Why should that be done for free when we'll already be losing. #4 I want a video shown to us how it's possible to case a full tray of DPS in 5 minutes. Prove it to us, i want to see it. Because that is just simply wrong. How is that being paid fairly? Old mail counts gave all MMM and any mail you couldn't deliver that day credit in the raw letters to, because of handling it twice. Like holds, box down, box blocked. There's a lot of little things we're losing credit for here, so shouldn't we at least be paid fairly for the casing of the DPS?
We see carriers being mandated to work their holidays all the time... it's cheaper to pay a holiday peep than a DACA 5 for working their relief day... js.... many of the things peeps complain about have already been happening for a long time now.... :unsure: 🤷‍♂️ 🧐
 
We see carriers being mandated to work their holidays all the time... it's cheaper to pay a holiday peep than a DACA 5 for working their relief day... js.... many of the things peeps complain about have already been happening for a long time now.... :unsure: 🤷‍♂️ 🧐
New contract option for working your holiday is adding an annual day for future. What pays more? Working your holiday and getting a v code on top of the days pay or a simple annual day? It's a cost saving plan for USPS
 
New contract option for working your holiday is adding an annual day for future. What pays more? Working your holiday and getting a v code on top of the days pay or a simple annual day? It's a cost saving plan for USPS
But, isn't there still the option to be paid, or take a day of leave???

So actually, this is an additional option for the carrier.... :unsure: 🤷‍♂️ 🧐
 
The Regs did get one thing out of this & it‘s that Seniority wins when multiple 3971s are submitted in the same day. If you find out that a sub put in to be off on a day you wanted, submit your slip the same day & you get it over them. Got a Junior Reg who is a real “jerk” & bump him when he decides to submit leave with your own leave slip.
I totally disagree with this, as a carrier 2/3of the way down the totem pole I take offense actually.
I deserve leave just as much as the next carrier, and especially since senior carriers usually have better routes, I believe they are already being rewarded for their time.
But for me to lose any chance of leave at holiday time due to having less time is BS.
 
I totally disagree with this, as a carrier 2/3of the way down the totem pole I take offense actually.
I deserve leave just as much as the next carrier, and especially since senior carriers usually have better routes, I believe they are already being rewarded for their time.
But for me to lose any chance of leave at holiday time due to having less time is BS.
If you’re not a jerk then it wasn’t about you.
I have Juniors in my office that think they are better than everyone else cause they get back in 2-3 hours yet are crappy carriers. They’ve already put in for Leave for ALL of the important Holidays & mgmt rarely tells them no. They have no respect for the Senior Carriers in the office at all. They are the tantrum-throwing children that mgmt backs down from.
 
As far as I'm concerned.... ain't no arbitrator gonna give us raises above what APWU & NALC got.... js.... let's be real... :unsure: 🤷‍♂️ :oops:
You keep saying "us".

Table 1 gets $1,935 no matter where you are. An obvious buying of votes.

Table 2 gets a percentage of that. Step 1? 6% or $116. And an additional slap in the face is that I believe step 5 is the highest anyone can be? That's 33% or $638.

And another slap in the face on pg 7 of the special contract edition. Pointing out step 7 on Table 1 will get.... Well well well, looks like step 7 years of Table 2 is the same as the 1st year of Table 1. This is a crafty backhanded wording.

They know which pay table is paying dues. They're not giving Table 2 anything, which would mean we don't pay the brunt of dues.

This is why NO for me and hopefully everyone else on Table 2. It's obvious table 2 isn't part of the club. We sit at the kids table. We aren't real carriers.
 
You keep saying "us".

Table 1 gets $1,935 no matter where you are. An obvious buying of votes.

Table 2 gets a percentage of that. Step 1? 6% or $116. And an additional slap in the face is that I believe step 5 is the highest anyone can be? That's 33% or $638.

And another slap in the face on pg 7 of the special contract edition. Pointing out step 7 on Table 1 will get.... Well well well, looks like step 7 years of Table 2 is the same as the 1st year of Table 1. This is a crafty backhanded wording.

They know which pay table is paying dues. They're not giving Table 2 anything, which would mean we don't pay the brunt of dues.

This is why NO for me and hopefully everyone else on Table 2. It's obvious table 2 isn't part of the club. We sit at the kids table. We aren't real carriers.
Over the past ten years, I've made a lot of noise railing against Table 2, at times when many others were mostly silent.... so I've never been a fan of multi-tier pay scales... as it currently stands tho, any raises that benefit Table 1, will eventually benefit all, as everyone will eventually match Table 1 pay, so all raises to Table 1 raise your eventual top pay... so it's not true that it does not benefit you in any way.... imo... just another perspective... :unsure: 🤷‍♂️ 🧐
 
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