load vehicle and end of shift deems list

[Rural-life-0323]

I haven't read through every comment but if my office was ever audited there would be a ton of pissed off carriers and management who allow incorrect procedures to be done on Load Vehicle time.

For example, you cannot sequence packages in any way shape or manner on load time other than by sectors in the truck, period. If you put packages in sequential delivery order it is factored into the office time pay and supported by the PO 603. Even large parcels. Something like that, as one example, could be disciplined since it's in direct violation of the policy.

 

[blue_goose1348]

Work Hour Tracking Sheets? Please elaborate.

Exactly what it says. Shows sign in time, leave for route, loading, every time scan on the scanner. As I stated, I am retired and no longer have access to that information.

 

[Missed a scan]

Exactly what it says. Shows sign in time, leave for route, loading, every time scan on the scanner. As I stated, I am retired and no longer have access to that information.

This sounds like the RMSS Activity Entry Details report.

 

[DohnJalton]

For example, you cannot sequence packages in any way shape or manner on load time other than by sectors in the truck, period.

Yeah no this is blatent bs and is what the load truck feature is for. Any rural carrier saying what you are saying doesnt actually have interest in whats best for the craft.

 

[Old Fart]

Exactly what it says. Shows sign in time, leave for route, loading, every time scan on the scanner. As I stated, I am retired and no longer have access to that information.

Just ask your timekeeper to show you on their screen, and maybe they'll print a copy for you.

 

[neciat]

For example, you cannot sequence packages in any way shape or manner on load time other than by sectors in the truck, period. If you put packages in sequential delivery order it is factored into the office time pay and supported by the PO 603. Even large parcels. Something like that, as one example, could be disciplined since it's in direct violation of the policy

I don't know about that one. I see this in The 603 ;

262 Loading Vehicle

262.1 General
Load all mail in the vehicle so that it is in sequence of delivery to ensure that
no time is lost on the route searching for the proper bundles and parcels or
containers.

Then, I see this in The M-38 , Section 344.26 ;

During the loading process, the carrier places the parcels in sequence of delivery in the
vehicle.

I can, however, kinda' see where you would make the statement you made. On page 69 of The RRECS Guide there is this ;

Standard S019 (Organize Large Parcels) is applied next and covers all time involved in
handling, organizing, marking, and loading large parcels into the hampers or other
conveyance equipment. This standard is 0.5157 minutes (30.9 seconds) and is applied
to the 52‐week average of large parcels received. Standard S020 (Organize Small and
Medium Parcels) covers all time involved in handling, sorting and either casing or
otherwise placing in delivery order all small and medium parcels, then placing them into
the conveyance for loading. This standard is 0.2367 minutes (14.2 seconds) and is
applied to the 52‐week average of small and medium parcels received.

You notice at the beginning of the definition of the time standard, for the large parcels it states "organize" and does NOT mention "sequence" or "place in delivery order" while for small and medium parcels the phrase "placing them into delivery order" is used. I take "organize" to refer to straightening out and placing the parcels so they are resting on their respective flat bottoms , sides, etc. Of course, about half of all of the above is moot because in the very same Guide there is this ;

When the carrier delivers an item with a barcode, they indicate on the MDD, where that
parcel was delivered: either Mailbox, Parcel Locker, or Door. The credit applied to each
item depends on where it is delivered, period. If the carrier indicated the item was
delivered to the mailbox or a parcel locker, the item is credited as a small‐medium
parcel. If the carrier indicated the item was delivered to the door, it is credited as a
large parcel.

 

[Rural-life-0323]

I don't know about that one. I see this in The 603 ;

Yes but you can only load them in by sector. There is another part of the PO 603 that says you have to mark your large parcels in the mail by either turning a letter backwards or use a parcel marker while on office time. When you load it you're not supposed to spend time arranging them in order by delivery sequence.

I really don't want to fight this point. All I'm saying is don't get caught in an audit. I heard our district manager has been going to offices with long load times.

 

[Rural-life-0323]

Yeah no this is blatent bs and is what the load truck feature is for. Any rural carrier saying what you are saying doesnt actually have interest in whats best for the craft.

Yes you can use the load truck feature to sort by sectors but you can't spend time arranging them in delivery sequence. That is an office function.

Don't even begin to suggest I don't have the interest of the craft. I'm the one fighting more than my union in my office to get people to get the max time possible, but policy is policy. All I'm saying is don't get caught because you're violating the policy. Good luck.

 

[neciat]

Yes but you can only load them in by sector. There is another part of the PO 603 that says you have to mark your large parcels in the mail by either turning a letter backwards or use a parcel marker while on office time. When you load it you're not supposed to spend time arranging them in order by delivery sequence.

I really don't want to fight this point. All I'm saying is don't get caught in an audit. I heard our district manager has been going to offices with long load times.

I wasn't totally just flat out disagreeing with you. I am well aware of some of the shenanigans that some carriers pull. I saw it in my office. Carriers out there on loading time writing a list , writing the address on the side/end of a parcel , stuffing SPRs into bundles when the SPRs should or could have been cased, etc. While your District Manager is going to offices with long load times, perhaps he/she could also address the the excessively low coverage factors on routes as well as the excessive amount of raw letters not accounted for during the MMS.

 

[Rural-life-0323]

While your District Manager is going to offices with long load times, perhaps he/she could also address the the excessively low coverage factors on routes as well as the excessive amount of raw letters not accounted for during the MMS.

TRUST ME! If I see him, this will 100% come out of my mouth.

I'm trying to figure out right now how to file a grievance against AMS and Growth management. BOTH have screwed me over on my route and I'm tired of it.

 

[U caught my attention]

TRUST ME! If I see him, this will 100% come out of my mouth.

I'm trying to figure out right now how to file a grievance against AMS and Growth management.

I personally dont want extra stress.
I just want to do my job, avoid every single one my co workers as best I can without seeming too rude, then go home. I dont want to have the extra stress of having to watch my back or put anyone in their place.