Signatures are picking up. Media coverage has been helping (Nrlca finally addressed what we’re all trying to do and they posted it to their website). Maston has commented multiple times now, let’s keep the momentum going! What we need next is national coverage and it’s over
You will have gotten more votes than the last several ratification vote tally's. It's not even about rrecs anymore: it's about the retirees, the fulltime union officials blocking any vote change by membership. Making it difficult for the common union member to exercise their vote with any equity.
postaltimes.com
No other union can express an interest in representing rural letter carriers until at least 30% of the carriers sign a petition to decertify the current union. There is currently a petition being circulated to reach this threshold, which must have 30% by the end of the year. If this number is reached at that time another union could make a commitment to represent us. At the time we voted by majority to either decertify or keep the current union we would also be able to vote in a new union on the same ballot. The Teamsters can not be involved at this current time. However, some have claimed the Teamsters have already commented that they will not represent us because it would be a conflict of interest since they already represent UPS employees. This may or may not be the case, we will not truly know until the 30% threshold is met.The vast difference in the UPS Teamsters Union and postal worker unions | Postal Times
The United Parcel Service (UPS) Teamsters labor union and the United States Postal Service (USPS) labor unions may both fall under the umbrella of labor org ...
Can and would the Teamsters want to represent us?
My understanding is “no”, the teamsters wouldn’t take us on, something doing with competing companies…..The vast difference in the UPS Teamsters Union and postal worker unions | Postal Times
The United Parcel Service (UPS) Teamsters labor union and the United States Postal Service (USPS) labor unions may both fall under the umbrella of labor org ...
Can and would the Teamsters want to represent us?
Could be wrong and as simplistic as it sounds, I think the Teamsters using the phrase "conflict of interest" was a purposeful way to deflect, yet appearing cordial to the invitation in lieu of "no can, thanks anyway".
From everything I've read and watched we will not be without a union just by signing the petition. If we get enough signatures and another union steps up and is interested in representing us then we can vote to decertify and go with the new union. If no one steps up then we just stay with the NRLCA and nothing changes. Do I think we will end up with a new union? No. But we have already done one thing that hasn't been done before: we have the union's attention. I hope we get a lot more signatures. The union needs to know we are serious and things are gonna have to change. They've had it too easy for too long. Cramming
down our throats and expecting us to say "Thank you Mother may I have another" while they cash their giant paychecks and never have to touch a piece of mail, endure managements crap, deliver in inclement weather, or get chased by dogs. I hope we do get enough signatures to decertify just to prove to them that we're not going to stand idly by and just let them do whatever they want while taking our money. They put out that statement to try to scare people into not signing the petition.
I agree with what you’re saying, but if there is no other union willing to step up, isn’t this less forethought and or planning than our current union? Therefore, placing us in a possibly more precarious place than we are currently in?From everything I've read and watched we will not be without a union just by signing the petition. If we get enough signatures and another union steps up and is interested in representing us then we can vote to decertify and go with the new union. If no one steps up then we just stay with the NRLCA and nothing changes. Do I think we will end up with a new union? No. But we have already done one thing that hasn't been done before: we have the union's attention. I hope we get a lot more signatures. The union needs to know we are serious and things are gonna have to change. They've had it too easy for too long. Cramming
Well, after everyone lost thousands of dollars, I think that might have been the wake-up call they all needed.
1/3 of carriers were not even allowed to vote on the contract, union members only allowed to vote. However any carrier can vote for decertification, many in sense have already let their opinion of the union be known by choosing not be members.
We can't plan with another union until this vote passes
Actually once 30% of petition signatures are verified other unions can be involved. When the actual vote occurs that requires the majority to determine the union's fate an alternative union can be voted on using the same ballot. But yes that does leave uncertainty at this time, but there could be other options to ponder before the decertification vote.We can't plan with another union until this vote passes
I'm just tired of people saying they won't sign until we have another union signed up; when it's literally illegal.
The standards we are to meet are propriatory and don't have to be shared? This sounds as if it is some type mind game to me. Does our union have some sort of secret contract with the Postal Service?
